Quote:Fair enough...

But the question remains, how often do these extraordinary shootouts happen?

When I'm talking about militarization, I'm specifically talking about the mentality of the PD and their over reliance of weapons and tactics that do not fit within the model of what a peace officer is brought on to do.

Engaging in every call as a potential shoot out results in treating the community as a war zone.

And then you get what happened in Miami and what happens to often better citizens all over the country

They occur rarely in any given town. But on a national scale it is happening more frequently. Look at what happened in Germany today. That could easily have been here in the states. The police who will be responding to these calls and cowardly attacks need to be prepared for that and have the proper tools, equipment and weapons to react quickly and decisively.


Tbh, I can't say that I agree or not on that they over rely on the weapons and tactics. As our criminals change and use different tactics along with new technology and weapons as do the police. It's evolved into what it is today. I believe the police need to be one step ahead in order to keep situations under control. Which means they get the cool new stuff. Be it the latest armor, guns, or even something overlooked like better radios. When I go camping with my family, I don't plan on us getting lost or anything. But, I will have items on me in the event it does happen. I think someone in another thread had a better one. Maybe it was having a fire extinguisher but not expecting a fire.


I completely agree with your last point. but I don't think that's what's going on. A few incidents here and there maybe. But for the most part you'll just see the guys in blue responding with a vest, gun, and whatever else he may have on his belt.

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