Quote:Low info? That seems to be your go to anytime someone has a different opinion than you. You must have quite the view up on your horse.

Has he moved his movement forward? Absolutely. But he sold out to do it. You state that like that was his only option. It wasn't. He could have continued moving his movement forward 33rd party or not supporting Hillary. Those were options as well. Now he is attached to Hillary and part of the club. You say it is politics, but he represented an honest politicians, one of the very few and didn't do things because "that's how it works." If no one did things different nothing would change.

There is a lot of danger in the message that no matter how corrupt we get or how many things we do wrong, we got to hear Trump. The danger is you become numb to your own parties problems without demanding more. It is a great line that the democrats have fed their voters. No matter what we got to beat Trump. Yeah, I know we didn't run fair campaign and tried to sabotage Bernie, but listen, we got to beat Trump so don't worry about it. I may have compromised naational security, but we got to beat Trump so let's not lose our focus. Okay so I hired Schultz who represents everything wrong in politics today, but hey, you, over here, we got to beat Trump so keep your head forward and don't worry about all these little things that are going on.

Just shows how powerful the narrative is. You've been pounding away at it too.

I feel you have taken my points personally. I'm just providing my analysis. I'm merely pointing out my background with the candidate. I've been following him long before he even declared his candidacy. That's all I'm pointing out. I appreciate and respect your position.


The reasons that Bernie lost, in my opinion, was that the younger Bernie bros showed up to the rallies but, as younger kids are want to do, when it came to actually taking time to inconvenience themselves to stand in line and vote, they stayed home.


So Bernie lost based on turnout. He lost. That's our system. Because he lost, his agenda would be usurped by the winner. The fact that Clinton is moving forward on his agenda is selling out?? How exactly? Should he have done the political suicide Cruz did??? You can believe that, if you want. But that is, in my opinion, just plain dumb.


The fact is that by taking your ball and going home, like Ted Cruz and the bush's did, is that you kill off your agenda. If you cash out of the game, you have no stake in shaping it.


I think Bernie understands this. Again, I'm not calling anyone out, but those people that claim to be Bernie bros, but in fact are not going to vote for Clinton are low info voters. They are the ones that show up to the rallies to be seen, but are not willing to do the grunt work of actually turning out and voting. Those yahoos were of no consequence, in reality, during the primaries because they never voted anyways. So for them to make a stink now is of no consequence either... That's all I'm saying.


At the end of the day, I'm seeing people critiquing Bernie, who would did not vote for bernie in the primary, and were not going to vote for either democratic candidate in the general election come November. So forgive me if I take their critiques with a grain of salt right now.

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