Quote:Yet you refrain from any mention of the DNC going all in for Clinton. You also seem to be lumping any Bernie Bro (which I am not) that didn't vote and using that as an argument for all Bernie Bros not voting. Based on turnout that doesn't make sense. What Bernie was able to do even as the DNC tried to undermine him was nothing short of amazing in politics. I think you underestimate the impact the national media has on elections. The DNC didn't underestimate it.

Those who are Bernie or Bust probably share many of the views I have. You can be both informed and be Bernie or Bust. It was important what Bernie represented and unfortunately, he can not represent that aligned with Clinton.

This isn't a Ted Cruz situation. The RNC wasn't being accused of being an armchair of any particular candidate. The DNC didn't respect what our political process is supposed to be. That isn't taking your ball and going home. That is fighting against corruption within the party system. Now, he has to fall in line.

I don't know man, I think that I called Shultz a rat, a republican (which is a pretty big insult for a liberal like me to lay on another so called member of the Democratic Party), and got what she had coming her way.


I think I've made myself clear as to my disdain for the dnc and the actions under Shultz.


If there is a question you want me to answer directly, I'm more than happy to.


i appreciate the position that the media has a huge influence on public opinion. Heck, it was the media that allowed for such free and positive press for trump that allowed him to spend such little and steam roll the gop primary.


But let me give you a reason for my disdain on the Bernie bros--- in 2007 it was the same media and dnc machine that was pushing for Hillary. It was insane how much in bed everyone was in bed for the clintons back in 07-08 during the run up to the primaries. The difference was that the Obama movement was real. The turnout was real. Obama had huge rallies---but those rallies also turned into votes on Election Day. Bernies's supoerters came to the rallies but didn't show up on the day of election.


That, is why he lost. Yes, it is no doubt a fact that the dnc did everything they could to hamstring Bernie. And Shultz, that duplicitous rat was the ring leader of that. But I think it's inaccurate to complain that the system was "rigged". The odds of Bernie winning was not good to begin with. The fact he did so well is a testament to the issues he was pushing.


Yea, I'm not stoked about his loss. But it's politics, the votes matter.


Let me ask you... You say that Bernie supporters cannot align with Clinton... Why? Did you listen to his speech last night? From what he said last night, what makes you think Bernie's movement cannot be included into the democratic campaign of the nominee that did win?

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