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Trump - "I've always wanted a Purple Heart" / Wimped out on Vietnam.
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Quote:Trump got a deferment from duty, just like all the Fortunate Sons did. He punked out... If he wanted a Purple Heart he had his chance... He makes a mockery of the honor by saying he always wanted one, when in fact he did everything he could to avoid the honor. Hard to find a clear timeline of events that isn't riddled with partisan bias. WaPo outlined it "OK". ------ For the previous four years, Trump had avoided the draft — and the possibility of being sent to fight in the Vietnam War — by obtaining four separate deferments so he could study at Fordham University and the University of Pennsylvania. With his diploma in hand and his college days over, he was suddenly vulnerable to conscription. Trump’s exposure to the draft, however, didn’t last long. Two months later, on Sept. 17, 1968, he reported for an armed forces physical examination and was medically disqualified, according to the ledger from his local Selective Service System draft board in Jamaica, N.Y., now in the custody of the National Archives. The ledger does not detail why Trump failed the exam — the Selective Service destroyed all medical records and individual files after the draft ended in 1973 and the military converted to an all-volunteer force. ... Trump’s draft board records show that he had another armed forces physical two years earlier, on Dec. 15, 1966. Although the ledger does not spell out the results, he was not granted a medical deferment at the time — indicating that he was found fit for duty. .... In 1968, Trump obtained his medical deferment at a time when the Vietnam War was intensifying and the military needed a wave of new conscripts. To help meet the demand, a national draft lottery was held in December 1969, for the first time since World War II. Men born between 1946 and 1950 were assigned a draft number — based on the order in which their birthdates were pulled randomly out of a jar. That year, young men with the same birthdate as Trump — June 14 — were assigned draft number 356 out of 366, almost last. Anyone with that number was almost guaranteed to avoid being drafted, unless the entire country mobilized. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/nat...story.html I am not familiar with the times, but didn't a lot of college students get deferments? After college he did get a very high draft number, though I suppose his medical deferments could have prevented him from going. Found this interesting list of names of people who did or did not enter draft from conservativepoliticalforum.com: Among Republicans: Tom Ridge: did not serve. Entered draft but recieved #245 Andy Card: did not serve. Draft #65 - should have been drafted Dennis Hastert: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Tom Delay: did not serve. Entered draft but received #312 Bill Frist: did not serve. Was in medical school-deferred Steve Forbes: did not serve. Entered draft but recieved #190 Trent Lott: did not serve. Entered draft but received #234 John Ashcroft: did not serve. Entered draft but received #197 Jeb Bush: did not serve. Draft #159 - should have been drafted Karl Rove: did not serve. Entered draft, received #84 - should have been drafted Paul Wolfowitz: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Newt Gingrich: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 George W. Bush: National Guard. If had entered draft, would have received #327 which contributed to his leaving Air Nat'l Guard prior to fulfilling commitment. Phil Gramm: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 JC Watts: did not serve. Draft had been replaced by all volunteer army before J.C. turned 18 Jack Kemp: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Dan Quayle: served with Indiana National Guard despite having Draft Lottery #210 Rudy Giuliani: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 George Pataki: did not serve. Entered draft but received #358 Spencer Abraham: did not serve. Entered draft, received #272 Now for Democrats: Sandy Berger: did not serve. Draft #94 - should have been drafted David Bonior: Staff Sgt., Air Force 1968-72. Draft #110 - enlisted to avoid being drafted James Carville Jr.: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Gary Condit: did not serve. Draft #62 - should have been drafted. Tom Daschle: 1st Lt., Air Force SAC 1969-72. Draft #43 - enlisted to avoid being drafted John Edwards (Kerry's 2004 running mate): did not serve; Draft #76 - should have been drafted. John Feingold: did not serve. Draft #77 - should have been drafted Al Gore: enlisted Aug. 1969; sent to Vietnam in 20th Engineer Brigade. Draft #30; served as writer for Stars & Stripes Dennis Kucinich, #342 - Eligible but with high number Robert Reich: did not serve. Entered draft but received #358 Bill Richardson: did not serve. Draft #131 - should have been drafted Charles "Chuck" Schumer: did not serve. Draft #182 - should have been drafted Al Sharpton: did not serve. Entered draft but received #244 George Tenet: did not serve. Draft #101 - should have been drafted Al Franken: did not serve. Entered draft but received #250 Now for some of the notable media types: Paul Allen (Microsoft co-founder), #347 - Eligible but with high number Gary Bauer (political activiist), #276 - Eligible but with high number Carl Bernstein - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 Wolf Blitzer, #248 - Eligible but with high number Aaron Brown (CNN anchor), #282 - Eligible but with high number Pat Buchanan: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Tucker Carlson: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he turned 18 Bob Costas: did not serve. Entered drafted but received #265 Howard Dean, #148 - Should have been drafted Lou Dobbs - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 Christopher Dodd - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 Steve Doocy: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Larry Flynt - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 Tommy Franks (retired Army general) - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945; volunteered Greg Gumbel, #40 - Should have been drafted Chuck Hagel, #202 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Sean Hannity: did not serve. Draft replaced by volunteer military before he turned 18 Brit Hume - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 John Kasich, #295 - Eligible but with high number Jeffery Katzenberg, #70 - Should have been drafted Michael Kinsley: did not serve. Entered draft but received #317 Ted Koppel - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 Bill Kristol: did not serve. Draft #162 - should have been drafted Matt Lauer - Draft ended before he turned 18 Rush Limbaugh: did not serve. Entered draft but received #221 Chris Matthews: did not serve. Being born in '45 was subject to draft Kweisi Mfume, #196 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Dennis Miller: did not serve. Entered draft but received #294 Michael Moore - Draft ended before he turned 18 Bill O'Reilly: did not serve. Draft #71- should have been drafted Richard Parsons (Time magazine CEO), #81 - Should have been drafted Tim Russert: did not serve. Draft #35 - should have been drafted Michael Reagan - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 Ralph Reed: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he turned 18 Mitt Romney, #300 - Eligible but with high Kenneth Starr: did not serve. Draft #27 - should have been drafted Antonin Scalia: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Clarence Thomas: did not serve. Draft #109 - should have been drafted Chris Wallace: served in Vietnam. Entered draft, received #72 - was drafted Now for everybody's favorites - Celebs & Well Known People (including those quite vocal in politics): Gregg Allman, #105 - Should have been drafted Tim Allen: did not serve. Draft #69 - should have been drafted Richard Dean Anderson, #118 - Should have been drafted Desi Arnaz Jr, #188 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Armand Assante, #202 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Ed Begley Jr, #207 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Tom Berenger: did not serve. Entered draft but received #313 Jeff Bridges: did not serve. Draft #165 - should have been drafted Keith Carradine: did not serve. Draft #48 - should have been drafted Alice Cooper, #210 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Billy Crystal: did not serve. Entered draft but received #354 Ted Danson: did not serve. Draft #16 - should have been drafted Richard Dreyfuss: did not serve. Draft #99 - should have been drafted Fred Dryer, #327 - Eligible but with high number Patrick Duffy, #33 - Should have been drafted Erik Estrada, #166 - Should have been drafted Dan Fogelberg, #307 - Eligible but with high number Larry Gatlin, #298 - Eligible but with high number Richard Gere: did not serve. Draft #11 - should have been drafted. Mel Gibson: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Robert Ginty, #127 - Should have been drafted Danny Glover: did not serve. Draft #153 - should have been drafted Jeff Goldblum, #117 - Should have been drafted John Goodman, #360 - Eligible but with high number Michael Gross, #27 - Should have been drafted Christorpher Guest, #214 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Arlo Guthrie, #284 - Eligible but with high number Daryl Hall, #237 - Eligible but with high number Mark Hamill, #149 - Should have been drafted Ed Harris, #281 - Eligible but with high number David Hasselhoff, #98 - Should have been drafted Don Henley, #153 - Should have been drafted PeeWee Herman, #352 - Eligible but with high number Ron Howard: did not serve. Entered draft but received #364 Tom Hulce, #198 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Bill Irwin, #14 - Should have been drafted Samuel L. Jackson: did not serve. Draft #70 - should have been drafted Don Johnson: did not serve. Entered draft but received #320 Tommy Lee Jones: did not serve. Draft #113 - should have been drafted David Keith - Draft ended before he turned 18 John Landis, #261 - Eligible but with high number Kenny Loggins, #306 - Eligible but with high number George Lucas: did not serve. Not subject to 1969 Draft Lottery because born before 1945 Barry Manilow, #73 - Should have been drafted Tim Matheson: did not serve. Draft #100 - should have been drafted Michael McKean, #288 - Eligible but with high number Gerald McRaney, #311 - Eligible but with high number John Mellencamp, #234 - Eligible but with high number Bill Murray: did not serve. Entered draft but received #204 Christopher Noth - Draft ended before he turned 18 John Oates, #149 - Should have been drafted Edward James Olmos: did not serve. Entered draft but received #236 Ed O'Neill: did not serve. Entered draft but received #346 Mickey O'Rouke: did not serve. Entered draft but received #284 Jameson Parker: did not serve. Draft #146 - should have been drafted Will Patton: did not serve. Draft #113 - should have been drafted Ron Perlman: did not serve. Draft #124 - should have been drafted Tom Petty, #192 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Joe Piscopo: did not serve. Draft #98 - should have been drafted Billy Preston, #263 - Eligible but with high number Dennis Quaid: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Randy Quaid: did not serve. Entered draft but received #359 Rob Reiner, #139 - Should have been drafted Lionel Ritchie, #360 - Eligible but with high number Tim Robbins: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Kurt Russell: did not serve. Draft #33 - should have been drafted Pat Sajak, #7 - Should have been drafted Garry Shandling, #99 - Should have been drafted Ron Silver, #350 - Eligible but with high number Jerry Springer, #152 - Should have been drafted Howard Stern - Draft ended before he turned 18 Parker Stevenson, #20 - Should have been drafted Patrick Swayze, #141 - Should have been drafted Steven Seagal: did not serve. Entered draft but received #218 Jerry Seinfeld: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Steven Spielberg: did not serve. Draft #128 - should have been drafted Bruce Springsteen: did not serve. Draft #119 - should have been drafted Slyvester Stallone: did not serve. Entered draft but received #327 Oliver Stone: served in Vietnam. Entered draft, received #113 - was drafted John Tesh: did not serve. Entered draft but received #279 Phillip Michael Thomas, #357 - Eligible but with high number Richard Thomas: did not serve. Draft #69 - should have been drafted John Travolta: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Steven Van Zandt, #9 - Should have been drafted Ben Vereen, #220 - Good chance wouldn't have been drafted Denzel Washington: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Carl Weathers: did not serve. Entered draft, received #238 Peter Weller, #358 - Eligible but with high number Robin Williams: did not serve. Draft #27 - should have been drafted Treat Williams, #129 - Should have been drafted Bruce Willis: did not serve. All volunteer military replaced draft before he was 18 Demond Wilson, #138 - Should have been drafted Henry Winkler - Not subject to draft because born in/before 1945 James Woods: did not serve. Draft #90 - should have been drafted Robert Zemeckis, #178 - Should have been drafted |
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