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Milwaukee officials plead for calm after unrest wracks city


Quote:I think saying treating the sick and injured is not a right, but being humane is kinda playing with semantics.


I don't know if you read one of my other posts, but I mentioned that based on our modern advances and how our global society has evolved and progressed over the past couple centuries, health care support is part of our rights to life. You said it yourself. Our humanity to one another (based on our abilities and technologies now to do so) requires us to help those that need it. After all--- ALL of us are gonna need that support eventually in our lives!!! Age, illness, and disease catches up with us all.


Now, I've heard this argument before regarding single payer and even universal healthcare and doctors. However, this is an issue that needs resolution. And going back to pre Obama care isn't an option.


There are models in Canada and Europe that can be followed. But the solution is moving forward, but back.
 

No, it's not semantics.  It's the truth.  People don't have the "right" to a professional's services (a doctor) for a cut or a common cold.

 

We have been endowed by our Creator with certain inalienable rights among those Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.  Liberals like you seem to read that as Life, Liberty and Happiness.  That's two different things.

 

Say we go to a single payer system.  Say right now a doctor charges a person (or insurance) $100 to stitch up say a 4" cut.  Under a single payer system, the government decides that to stitch that same cut should cost only $50 and that's all that they will pay.  Is that really "fair" to the professional that went through many years of school?  What is going to happen to the medical profession?  Are people going to be willing to go through years of school in order for the government to dictate how much they should earn for a procedure?

 

Now under that scenario, the government "pays" for it, but how does the government get the money?  Oh that's right, from people that actually work and are productive in society.  What if the person that needed the treatment was some heroine junkie?  What if it happens to be an illegal alien that shouldn't have been here to begin with?  In either case the "patient" doesn't pay anything and you (maybe) and I as tax payers have to pay for it.

 

Sorry but NOPE!



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Milwaukee officials plead for calm after unrest wracks city - by jagibelieve - 08-17-2016, 06:08 PM



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