Quote:Here is the choice: vote for a crook, or vote for Donald Trump.   I cannot vote for Trump.   He is an absolute disaster.   He's a thin-skinned, reckless, know-nothing megalomaniac.   Plus I completely disagree with all his stated policies.   Deporting 11 million people, building a wall on the border with Mexico, renegotiating the national debt, refusing to do anything about entitlements, endorsing eminent domain, closing the borders to an entire religion, abandoning our Nato allies-  these ideas are all crazy and stupid.   Demanding the President of the United States show his birth certificate to prove he's a citizen!  Idiotic.   Plus I can't stand the guy personally.   He's incredibly irritating.  

 

So I am forced to vote for a crook.   So be it. 

 

I'm curious, Marty...  What's your definition of a crook.  The reason I ask is that I would never vote for a criminal, especially one that I would think is a treasonous criminal that is gonna sell me and my nation out.

 

Obviously, by the strict standard of innocent until proven guilty, Hillary is not a criminal.  And I think you (and alot of folks, really) are trying to line up your beliefs with the facts and that is why you are using the term "crook" as opposed to "criminal".  And I think that's the correct approach.

 

To me, the term "crook" is describing a political animal that has become corrupted by the game that creates corruption no matter your political affiliation.  I think it's clear that no matter what side of the aisle you are on, the system as it is now set up creates corruption.  If you want to be a successful politician in D.C., you have to play the game.  And the Clinton's are the best at the game.  And therefore have the most dirt on their jerseys, so to speak.

 

I agree, with the premise you bring up.  It's a choice between a lifetime politician that won't completely sink the ship but is probably going to maintain the status quo, with the help of a republican congress there will be gridlock and things pretty much stay as is.  Or we can elect a mad man that has no real policies, flip flops from day to day on everything, has incited the worst in a lot of his supporters, and cannot help but to instigate fights via his speeches or tweets that could lead to catastrophe at home and with foreign leaders.

 

Thoughts?

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