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Many donors to Clinton Foundation met with her at State

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Quote:I don't know if there is a direct quid-pro-quo involved, probably Bill Clinton is too smart for that, but probably it's just wealthy interests who say to themselves, "I want to give this guy half a million dollars so he will be my friend.  Eventually, I will get something out of that friendship."   Make it a speaking fee, so it's not just a gift.   Clever, but it smells to high heaven. 

 

But just to reiterate for anyone who is reading this:

 

Here is the choice: vote for a crook, or vote for Donald Trump.   I cannot vote for a thin-skinned, reckless, know-nothing megalomaniac, whose policy prescriptions are all crazy and stupid.   Deporting 11 million people, building a wall on the border with Mexico, renegotiating the national debt, refusing to do anything about entitlements, endorsing eminent domain, closing the borders to an entire religion, abandoning our Nato allies-  these ideas are all crazy and stupid.  Oh, not to mention, encouraging Japan and Saudi Arabia to develop nuclear weapons.  Demanding the President of the United States show his birth certificate to prove he's a citizen.  The man is a complete idiot.   Plus I can't stand the guy personally.   He's incredibly irritating.  
 

Agreed.  It is clever.  Hence the perception by most of us that they are "crooks".  But again, they are not criminals based on our Constitutionally suported justice system.  The clintons are the best at this game.  But it's the game that I'm more at odds with.  The rules need to be changed, otherwise, the whole system is filled with different shades of crooks with different levels of corruption.

 

I wish more young people went out and voted in the Democratic primary.  But they didn't and we got Clinton.  In addition, and this is coming from a Bernie Bro, Bernie Sanders never had a chance.  He was un-polished, too disheveled, and just not right for TV to have taken the populist message and beaten Hillary with it.  Plus, he never could stay on his message when he had interviews.  His message never was fully realized in the media, and it was his fault for that.  He had his chances every time he was interviewed.  But he couldn't stay on message.  The interviewers always tripped him up.  That's what you gotta love about trump surrogates.  They always circle back to thier talking points, no matter how ridiculous.  Bernie could never do that.  And it hurt him in the end.  He never got any of the Obama/Hillary supporters to switch over in large enough numbers.  He just got the millenials and never expanded is democratic base.

 

Elizabeth Warren - she could have done it.  And maybe in 4 years we'll have a more polished politician that can take the true message further.  In the mean time, what we have is a decision between the status quo and chaos.  

 

I have to vote for the status quo.

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