Quote:That's incomplete and you know it. Draft position alone does not guarantee success and to think that it does is bordering on ridiculous. Other teams can trade up past you, the player can be injured, the player may not work out, the evaluation may be incomplete, etc etc etc. The only thing that is affected is the draft position, but draft position alone does not guarantee success. In some cases, it can be argued that it is almost meaningless. Check the recent draft positions of the past five Title winners; Baltimore, New York Giants, Green Bay, New Orleans, Pittsburgh.

 

Baltimore hasn't had a top ten overall pick since 2003.

 

New York last had a top ten pick when it traded up for Eli, and then it had the Fourth overall spot. Their average first pick position over the last nine seasons? 27th.

 

Out of the last nine drafts, Green Bay has picked 16 or higher three times. And none of them were on a Quarterback.

 

New Orleans had the Second overall pick in 2006 and he isn't even on their roster any more.

 

Pittsburgh hasn't had a selection in the top ten since Plaxico Burress was still in college, 2000.

 

Any way that you slice it, draft position doesn't guarantee success. Sorry, but I'll choose to have patience.

 

You're not espousing patience, you're espousing indifference.

 

Still your point is ridiculous, the value isn't the player you get, the value is the draft position you get, and if you think draft position doesn't have value then you're incorrect.

 

However, the part of your post that really puts your point aside is that you list off multiple teams that either have elite QBs or very high level rosters as examples of why high draft picks don't help, which is not the case.

 

Baltimore has had a defense with multiple all-pro level players.

 

The Giants got an elite QB in 2004.

 

New Orleans got an elite QB.

 

Pittsburgh got an elite QB in 2004.

 

What you're actually saying is that if you get an elite QB or hit on some hall of fame level players then you won't be picking high for a while and you'll still do well. Which isn't actually saying anything profound at all.

 

On the other hand, what are the Colts doing right now if they had the 10th pick in the 2012 draft instead of the #1 pick?

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