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Tom Brady and the Patriots rip the hearts out of yet another lowly NFL team.

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(This post was last modified: 12-09-2013, 01:43 PM by Deacon.)

Quote:You're not espousing patience, you're espousing indifference. 1


 

Still your point is ridiculous, the value isn't the player you get, the value is the draft position you get, and if you think draft position doesn't have value then you're incorrect. 2


 

However, the part of your post that really puts your point aside is that you list off multiple teams that either have elite QBs or very high level rosters as examples of why high draft picks don't help, which is not the case.

 

Baltimore has had a defense with multiple all-pro level players.

 

The Giants got an elite QB in 2004.

 

New Orleans got an elite QB.

 

Pittsburgh got an elite QB in 2004.

 

What you're actually saying is that if you get an elite QB or hit on some hall of fame level players then you won't be picking high for a while and you'll still do well. Which isn't actually saying anything profound at all. 3


 

On the other hand, what are the Colts doing right now if they had the 10th pick in the 2012 draft instead of the #1 pick? 4
 

Okay, I'll tackle your points in turn...

 

1. In no way am I espousing indifference. I have a vested interest in the success of the team. Simply because I view it in a different light than you, and that my perspective does not call for a change in the current mindset or actions does not mean I am indifferent, nor do I want other people to have an indifferent mindset. That is not true in any way shape or form.

 

2. I never once said value, I was focused on success. The value of a draft pick is only as good as the people who want it, and my listing of the past five Champions -- teams who have enjoyed success by my definition -- was showing that you can have success while having "middle of the pack" draft value. Highest possible draft value is your platform, not mine.

 

3. Again, you are being incomplete. What I am espousing is that a team does not need to have extremely high value in terms of draft picks in order to be successful. The only top five draft selection in that list is Manning, and I'm fairly certain that the argument can be made that he may be the lowest player on that particular five Quarterback totem pole.

 

4. I dunno, maybe draft Russell Wilson in the Third Round ahead of Seattle and post a better record these past two seasons than what they have? Think that might be a possibility?


I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!
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Tom Brady and the Patriots rip the hearts out of yet another lowly NFL team. - by Deacon - 12-09-2013, 01:42 PM



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