Quote:It accomplishes as much as anything that gets done on this board does. 1


 

I am hung up on value. I won't stop being a fan if the Jaguars go 7-9 and end up with the 15th pick when we could have had the first pick, I'll just be disappointed if guys we miss out on turn out to be real difference makers and the guy we end up drafting doesn't. 2


 

Also I don't buy into culture, not that you've been referencing it, it's just a digression from our discussion.

 

The Jaguars had a losing culture until they suddenly didn't, now they suddenly have a competitive winning culture, until they start losing, then they suddenly will have a losing culture again.

 

The culture can be established at any time, and it won't necessarily carry over between any two seasons.

 

What happened to the Falcons' winning culture? 3

 

1. You've really lost me here. Are you saying that since it will have no impact that it's okay to put a plan in motion that will essentially cause the fanbase to disengage from the team?

 

2. I see your point, but having your pick of the litter in the draft doesn't correlate to success; and that's what I'm hung up on. If Jacksonville drafted 32 in each round for five years, got horrid draft "grades" from every pundit in the known universe, and every media outlet called for their outright ouster and they still ended up as perrenial Playoff contenders, I'd be happy. I'm simply not willing to put my faith into a situation with as many unknown items and moving parts as the Draft. Work now, work with what you've got, learn who your players are and what they can do. Don't go around pouting just because someone else gets a great player; get your own great player.

 

3. I disagree with you about culture, but that may be because I don't believe in the concept of a "winning" culture.  I believe that teams have whatever culture the staff develops and maintains. Teams do have a culture, and it is palpable to those who are inside of it. If a team, i.e. the players, know that the staff has clear, defined expectations of preparation and performance, it is visible and they will respond to it. Cultures exist, but they go beyond a W-L record. Having witnessed both sides of it, it will be very hard for you to convince me otherwise.

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