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Tom Brady and the Patriots rip the hearts out of yet another lowly NFL team.

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(This post was last modified: 12-09-2013, 02:50 PM by Oklahomie.)

Quote:1. You've really lost me here. Are you saying that since it will have no impact that it's okay to put a plan in motion that will essentially cause the fanbase to disengage from the team?

 

2. I see your point, but having your pick of the litter in the draft doesn't correlate to success; and that's what I'm hung up on. If Jacksonville drafted 32 in each round for five years, got horrid draft "grades" from every pundit in the known universe, and every media outlet called for their outright ouster and they still ended up as perrenial Playoff contenders, I'd be happy. I'm simply not willing to put my faith into a situation with as many unknown items and moving parts as the Draft. Work now, work with what you've got, learn who your players are and what they can do. Don't go around pouting just because someone else gets a great player; get your own great player.

 

3. I disagree with you about culture, but that may be because I don't believe in the concept of a "winning" culture.  I believe that teams have whatever culture the staff develops and maintains. Teams do have a culture, and it is palpable to those who are inside of it. If a team, i.e. the players, know that the staff has clear, defined expectations of preparation and performance, it is visible and they will respond to it. Cultures exist, but they go beyond a W-L record. Having witnessed both sides of it, it will be very hard for you to convince me otherwise.
 

1. The fanbase is already disengaged from the team, at least the part of the fanbase that will disengage. Those of us that populate this board aren't going to disengage, and those that will disengage already are, the team has been bad for multiple years in a row. Once the team starts winning those fans that are only interested in good teams will be back.

 

2. Having later draft picks correlates to success because players don't just play one year. Teams rise and fall over years. The Patriots have been good to great since the mid 90's when they went to the Superbowl under Bledsoe and Parcells. One day the Patriots will fail to reload their roster sufficiently and they'll become something much like the Jaguars of the last 13 years - just happy with a wildcard slot in the playoffs. Getting better draft picks doesn't guarantee anything except that you've got the chance to pick first, which is a good thing.

 

3. What happened to the Falcons winning culture?


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