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Trump heading to Mexico to meet with El Presidente Nieto


Quote:I love how you can say Trump doesn't incite division and violence. It's as if the first few months of his campaign never happened. What he is pitching isn't deporting those law enforcement just happens to come across -- which should be happening now (how would that be the generator of jobs you mention?). His rhetoric is that we are gonna deport 11 million illegals. If you don't see how people who look a certain way could be targeted I guess you missed instances where people who are here legally have already been harassed in Arizona. You are right that Trump said nothing about hit squads. I have to assume he will run the government in a similar fashion to how he runs his campaign. Through intimidation, amped up rhetoric and violence (and the likelihood of not paying people for work they've done). To squander $450B on this is absurd considering how many other things this money could be used for. To believe this is the most pressing issue our nation faces is ridiculous and indicative of an America that has clearly lost its way.
 

That's just not true.  He has said and continues to say that his immediate focus will be on the 2 to 4 million CRIMINAL ALIENS, specifically violent criminal aliens that are in this country that pose a potential threat to the country.  At the same time we are going to build a wall to make sure that these criminals aren't allowed to just walk back across the border the moment they are released (The guy who shot Kate Steinlee was deported 5 times and kept coming back.) 

 

In any law enforcement endeavor, the executive has the ability to set prosecutorial priorities and directives.  This is about getting the Gang leaders, drug dealers, and viltent offenders out of the country, securing the border, monitoring visa overstays and creating a political environment that could lead to normalization for the Abuela or the guy who has been working here for the Last 20 years and hasn't committed any crime outside of illegal entry into the country. 

 

I'll go back again, the reason this topic is so contentious has nothing to do with xenophobia, it has nothing to do with racism, it has to do with the fact that we went along with the Heart and Compassion argument in the mid 80's.  We were promised, give amnesty to 3 million people, get it over with and we will secure the border so that this won't happen again.  3 million people got amnesty, the border wasn't secured and 30 years later we are dealing with 11 million estimated (probably much higher) illegal aliens in the country.  That's not sustainable.  That's not what the government was designed for.   Build the wall, secure the border, deport the rapists murderers drug dealers, drunk drivers, etc, and then we can take reasonable stock of the undocumented population that remains and then set priorities for the next step. 

 

In Texas alone there have been nearly 3/4 of a million crimes committed by illegal aliens since this president took office.  Proper enforcement of immigration law ON THE BOOKS could have stopped the largest terror attack in our country's history.   Proper vetting of refugees or the creation of a safe zone could have prevented the second largest attack in U. S. History.  Proper vetting of the Fiancé Visa program could have prevented San Bernardino. 

 

If you want to disagree with certain aspects of policy then that's fine.  But pretending that the American people don't have a right to determine, through their elected representatives and due process of law, who is and is not in their country is a fundamental rejection of the basic social contract that underwrites the very formation of government. 

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Trump heading to Mexico to meet with El Presidente Nieto - by jj82284 - 09-03-2016, 09:09 AM



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