Quote:Law enforcement doesn't have the resources to lock up illegals and dial ICE for a pick up? I can think of plenty of better ways to spend that money. Education would be a great start. This section of the message board shows just how dire the need is.


And if you think a wall on our southern border is going to stop illegal immigration or make it harder for terrorists to access American soil, I hate to tell you our northern border is even more porous and there are entire sections of the east and west coast which large groups could arrive undetected.


Illegal immigration is an issue that governors and senators of border states have been trying to solve for decades. But since the orange man says he can solve it during an election season with emphasis of his tiny little hands, you believe it is possible. The fact you are willing to invest so much effort and money into something that will not work shows you are gullible and do not recognize where our country's priorities should lie. After the fearmongering following 9/11 all manner of bad policies were enacted because fear allows rational people to endorse irrational decisions. Blowing billions on a wall is a colossal bone head move. Why not take that money and fix the VA (Republicans can't help but voting against helping soldiers who come back broken and incomplete)? End homelessness? Invest in something that really could create sustainable jobs? No. Instead let's build a [BAD WORD REMOVED] wall.

 

The fact that you have no idea how a deportation works says it all.  It's not as simple as just call ICE and poof, the alien is gone.  It starts with having enough ICE agents or Border Patrol Agents to respond to that call.  Then it takes having a facility close enough to actually be able to determine if the alien is illegal or not with ENFORCE/IDENT IAFIS ability.  Many times illegals are let go in traffic stops because it would take way too long to respond and then even longer to bring the alien back to a facility to process them.  Then, once they are determined to be illegal, a case file for 11 million people needs to be completed which takes immigration officers roughly an hour and significantly longer if its a prosecution.  Now you have to have a jail that can hold these 11 million immigrants.  So now the case has been submitted up and they are pending a hearing with an immigration judge, which currently takes months.  So now we have to house these immigrants while they are in our custody.  So the time has come for them to see an immigration judge, and they were ordered removed.  Okay, now we have to wait months again to fly them back to their countries if they are not from Mexico.  All along the way they are coming in contact with ICE/Border Patrol, ICE Detention Officers, BOP Detention Officers, immigration judges, US Marshals, DEO's, AEO's, prosecution lawyers, defense attorneys, court stenographers, etc etc.

 

I would rather put the money for the wall into manpower, but a wall still helps.  It won't stop anyone, but it buys Border Patrol time to respond and catch these people before they get away.  Yuma, Arizona is a prime example.  Before the secondary border fence went up, they would stage daily "banzai" runs by the 100's.  The day the secondary fence went up, it all ended.  Now they come across in small groups of 3 or 4 at a time, which the Border Patrol can manage.

 

Come up with a way to "end homelessness" and I'll be on board.  Come up with a way to fix the VA and I'll be on board.  But fix the country's immigration problem?  Nah, we don't want to fix that because other problems and words and stuff.

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