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***Official 2016 Vice Presidential Debate Thread***


I find Trump's demeanor secondary to everything else wrong with him to be honest.  Yeah, it's not very presidential to double down on calling someone 'fat'.  But even if he hadn't, I still wouldn't be voting for him.  Not when he supports policies like Stop and Frisk.  (Even if it does work, and there's evidence that suggests that it doesn't--it's still unethical and unconstitutional, not to mention discriminatory).  Or when he supports a 45% tariff on Chinese Goods.  And when he supports Trickle Down economics, thinking that the best way to improve the economy is still to give more money to those at the top.

 

Oh, I'm sure he's the conservative hero that everyone wants.  (I.E. Not Obama and Not Hillary).  He's not a career politician either, which bolsters his credibility with the anti-establishment wing of the right wing.  He tells us he's going to do all these wonderful tremendous things, then doesn't really tell us what they are.  His plans are secret.  So secret, even he doesn't know them I'd wager. 

 

For all his anti-establishment cred, he's still carrying on one of the major problems the establishment created: The Us vs Them mentality.  "Clinton's Fault!"  "Bush's Fault!"  "Obama's Fault!"  Blame, Blame, Blame.  The other side is so clearly and obviously the problem.  And we're here to fix it... and in 4 years, he'll still be blaming Obama much like Democrats are still blaming Bush.  The establishment loves it.  Their base eats it up.  

 

I've never been a fan of Mike Pence either.  He's very much a politician, much unlike Trump. I liked Tim Kaine's answer to the final question of the night--and it was the strongest point for him for me.  I'm not a big fan of Kaine overall, but that answer moved him up a little in my book.  I know it won't appeal to a lot of people, but it certainly appealed to me.  I feel Pence is in ways opposite of Kaine there, which is a big part of why I don't like him as a candidate.


I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 
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***Official 2016 Vice Presidential Debate Thread*** - by The Eleventh Doctor - 10-05-2016, 07:01 PM



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