Quote:Thats not what was said. What was said is that if you presume that what Trump said to be pure truth then you also have to assume that the "lets me" part is also true. Which would mean it is not "crime"



"You cannot absolve a person from the possibility of wrongdoing simply by getting their version of events."


You cannot judge a person to have commited a crime based on a joke, with no evidence and no input from people that it supposedly happened to.


You keep saying this isn't about Trump when this whole thread is about Trump and the non issue that you are so upset about.


At least be honest with yourself when you are being destroyed in debate. Its not a good look for you.

Every post I have made on this from the time the definition of the word "let" was introduced has been about the false argument that a person cannot be given a blanket excuse that since they said an act was consensual it must be so. From that post pages ago, my argument has never been about Trump, whether he actually did it, whether he was joking or anything else. Go back and see for yourself. I have been saying the same thing a hundred ways. You and others have been coming in and making this an argument about Trump's guilt, intention or innocence and I have been consistently fighting against the notion a person cannot be automatically given a free pass simply because they say a woman let them do something. It does not matter if we are talking about this incident or a person on trial for rape. You cannot simply draw a conclusion about a situation based on one person's account of an event. Trump was the basis of an argument, "he says they let him so it must not have been a big deal." I could care less about him. I care that an argument is made that a guy's account is all that is needed to make a judgment of what was or was not a consensual event without even taking a moment to get any details. A blanket excuse was made ..because Trump.. that defies logic and I rightfully called it out as bull manure. You agreed with the only point I was ever trying to make. So how is that getting destroyed in a debate? I cannot help if you were arguing about something different.

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