Quote:are the Russians taking over our election or is the mention of election fraud dangerous? which is it?

You're just going to confuse them now.  They haven't gotten their daily talking points yet.

 

Quote:Ok, I wasn't in Florida in 2000, I will take your word for it. What was reported in other states (Indiana which is a huge Red State) was that the Florida ballots were not being counted because of an issue.


Also it was Bush who took it to the Supreme Court correct? To get the election certified?

 

Read up on the history about those ballots.  Most of the issues were amazingly enough only occurring in heavily democrat areas of the state.  For some reason, the more republican areas of the state didn't seem to have nearly the issues with ballots.  The Gore campaign was ready with an army of lawyers to go in and challenge the results only in those counties, and for reasons ranging from confusing butterfly ballots to the infamous hanging chads. 

 

The Gore campaign worked the state court system right up to the state supreme court in an effort to continue recounting until they could find enough votes to overturn the certified results of the election.  The Bush campaign took them to SCOTUS to put an end to the nonsense. The election had already been certified.  Their petition was simply to stop the court ordered recounts. 

 

Multiple subsequent investigations and recounts done by media outlets after the fact confirmed that the Bush win was legitimate using anything but the most liberal of guidelines to interpret the intent of voters on those ballots that weren't completed correctly. 

 

Quote:Conventional wisdom would say if you claimed to care about babies and then later on women that you would continue to care after birth but you don't. If you cared about reducing or eliminating abortion you and yours would advocate widespread contraceptive and sexual education but you don't because you stop caring after the birth. You didn't even attempt to dispute this. You screamed a talking point and claim I am zombie? What a hypocrite. 

 

Many of the largest organizations who are most active in the pro life movement also provide services to help these mothers if they opt to not go for an abortion. 

 

There's a significant budget for public health to provide free contraceptives and reproductive health education.  Find another straw man.

 

BTW, even if Roe against Wade was overturned, it wouldn't make abortions illegal.  It would simply send it back to the states to decide on the issue. 

 

Quote:Do you think that Trump was in on it all along? Seems likely to me.

I think Trump is an entertainer who understood the value of free press.  I don't think he was in on it, but I doubt very seriously he or any candidate running for office would turn a blind eye to the opportunity. 

---