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big arm, nope if there is anything i can criticise bortles for it's a lack of arm strength.

i think you are thinking of carr who is the big arm guy


bortles is the opposite of gabbert if you watch him, pocket presence is one of his strengths, he takes hits well and is more mobile the gabbert

however he doesn't have the power to stretch the field and occassionally overtrusts his arms and tries to fit it in to a too tight spot


@nyc: i would agree with you on the top 5 thing and would love to trade down and pick him up, but with a feeding frenzy that should be behind us in cleveland minnesota and tampa i don't think he will be there if we traded down


i reckon alot of qbs will go at an inflated pick with teams reluctant to miss out... though i am quite happy for us to go de instead i very much doubt he will make it out of the top 10

His arm strength is very much his strength as a player.. The ability to make all the throws, putting them on the right shoulder with the right zip etc.


He panics in the pocket, and no he is not more athletic than Gabbert, Gabbert is just as athletic, but you take that panicking in the pocket at the college level and then go the NFL and the slightest pressure and they screw up..


This guy is a product of the hype machine..I have no doubt he will go in the first round but he is not nfl talent.

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