Quote:Imagine that.  Using evidence and reason.  Clearly beyond many posters on the board.

 

Quote:Well it would help if you looked at the Giants roster in 2014 and 2015 yourself. But feel free to ignore evidence that contradicts your opinion if you want. The amount of defensive players that played significant time those two years and then immediately disappeared from the league is a little alarming. Those are personnel issues. The Giants clearly had personnel issues on defense in those years which is why their record suffered. How much input Coughlin had on brining in personnel I don't know, but Jerry Reese is ultimately responsible for it and from the looks of it he hamstrung the Giants defense pretty good by not bringing in better talent sooner.

A great coach makes the most out of the players they have. Bill with a bunch of no bodys won the superbowl.  The panthers with a bunch of nobodys got into the championship game.  Delrio with hardly anyone made the afc championship game.  So really?  No evidence?  Or the fact ya hanging on to the 90s. We'll step into the future.  This is not 99 tom. This is 2017 tom. at 71 years old. And the last two seasons went 0-6 and 2-8.  

 

Or would you like to argue teams without many pro bowlers can't start above 2-8 or -06?  Cause I can give you countless examples of why you are in fact wrong. 

 

I believe the cowboys with an unknown nfl qb rookie and a rookie rb is off to the playoffs.   But the counter is rookies cant produce right away right? 

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