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3-4 D

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(This post was last modified: 01-05-2017, 10:40 PM by D6.)

Quote:Interesting that Belichick credits Collier with teaching him the 3-4.  I remember reading an article years ago where Collier indicated the 3-4 was size dependent, and that it couldn't work without a stud at DT. (I've been trying to find it for a while.  I will post when I can find it) Greg Kragen had a pretty good career for himself, but it's amazing they got as far as they did with him at NT and Rulon Jones at DE.
 

  What you mentioned brought back memories of the Broncos drafting undersized DT-NT Ted Gregory in Round 1 in 1987.   Gregory never played a regular season or post-season game for the Broncos.   The next year he was traded to the Saints for DT-DE Shawn Knight,  also a 1st Round pick in 1987.   Both players were colossal busts.  It's rare when teams give up on 1st Round picks this quickly but it was justified.  

 

  Another memory brought back was from my youth when listening to Sports Talk show host Pete Franklin on then 3WE 1100 AM radio out of Cleveland,  a station that can be heard at night in 38 states and half of Canada when atmospheric conditions are right.   The call letters now are WTAM.   At least for me,  when Pete Franklin was in Cleveland,  he was the best sports talk host I've ever heard.   Not even close.    Pete Franklin put together an annual Draft Report.   He was pounding the table for the Browns to draft Rulon Jones.   They took RB Charles White instead,  who turned out to be a much better college RB than NFL RB.  Jones went in the 2nd round to the Broncos and was part of teams that denied the Browns a chance at reaching the Super Bowl in AFC Championship games. 

 

 A Casey Hampton type of NT or an in shape Jerry Ball would have made a huge positive difference for those Broncos teams and the Bills teams that fell short 4 straight years in the Bowl.



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