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Trump’s Immigration Muslim Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties


Quote:Just so, disappointing.


In this analogy the country most certainly is our house. The foundational principal behind the formation of government is to protect its citizens within its borders. To that end it is within the rights of the citizens to exercise the same discretion over entry into their country as it is for a person to exercise that same discretion over people entering their home.


You made the assertion that altruism and holding that all lives matter means that we should set aside that discretion and allow strangers (those who haven't been properly vetted) into our home, (this country) and giving them free access to our daughters bedrooms (unrestricted movement).


The tragic flaw with modern multi-culturalism is the underlying strand of moral relativism that causes people to put aside common sense, logic, and any other means of left brain decision making for the blindfold of INCLUSION believing that the Shariah Law square can fit neatly next to the Gay rights square and the womens sexual liberation square in the multi-cultural quilt. The only problem that Europe is having with that experiment is finding a gentle enough solvent to remove all the blood or make enough quilts to comfort the rape victims.


We had one of the biggest mass shootings in the countries history because we thought "It's just a fiancée Visa. There just a crazy couple in love, what the heck could go wrong with that." All the emotional narratives in the world just mask the fact that we are dealing with an amorphous template for potential terrorist activity that grows and evolves each day while the natural buffer offered by the Atlantic Ocean shrinks every year with more and more flow of people and ideology. If a 72 hour inconvenience at an Airport is crossing the line in the pursuit of vetting those coming into the country for you then i'm sorry. We'll just be at the grown ups table formulating policies to keep people safe in their own country while you and your ilk are prepping Madonna for her course on how not to be raped by a shariah Male, Fashion for the new feminist progressive!


I'm proud of you. This mostly makes sense. Far more so than your OP.


A few points.. properly vetted how? Having applied for and received green cards? The new "truth" of Trump calls for "extreme vetting" and he gave zero notice to travelers or airports. I don't condone letting anyone in our country without knowing anything about them. Your analogy to a kid's bedroom remains a bit extreme stil in my opinion.


You started losing me with that second paragraph, but to the point of Sharia Law.. it would not, could not supersede our legal system as, unlike other countries, we have a separation of church and state (which many on the right forget from time to time). Anyone immigrating here legally would know what rights they have and which ones they do not.


You faded with that last paragraph, but it sounds to me like one incident in California is your basis for telling all Muslim people they are not welcome here. That's the message they are getting.


So I will pause here.. assume we had a time machine before that one attack. Would this measure of extreme vetting have stopped the attack? How so? Are you proposing any citizens not born here give up certain rights?


My comment that all lives matter is simple. Families are fleeing wars they did not start. Fleeing violence they want no part of. And we have allowed Islamophobia to paralyze us with fear and prevent us from giving asylum to those who have few places to go. So the point is simple. All lives do not matter to those who coined that phrase in response to BLM. Because there's a noticeable asterisk next to it.
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Trump’s Immigration Muslim Ban Excludes Countries With Business Ties - by Kotite - 01-30-2017, 12:47 PM



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