Quote:I'm proud of you. This mostly makes sense. Far more so than your OP.


A few points.. properly vetted how? Having applied for and received green cards? The new "truth" of Trump calls for "extreme vetting" and he gave zero notice to travelers or airports. I don't condone letting anyone in our country without knowing anything about them. Your analogy to a kid's bedroom remains a bit extreme stil in my opinion.

 

why would you give that kind of intel to prospective bad actors?



You started losing me with that second paragraph, but to the point of Sharia Law.. it would not, could not supersede our legal system as, unlike other countries, we have a separation of church and state (which many on the right forget from time to time). Anyone immigrating here legally would know what rights they have and which ones they do not.

 

The concern here is not Shariah Law becoming the ratified law of the land.  The concern is that some who take a fundamentalist approach to Shariah Law will act out its more violent tenants and harm innocent people.  Omar Mateen didn't try to get a bill passed, he went to a gun store!



You faded with that last paragraph, but it sounds to me like one incident in California is your basis for telling all Muslim people they are not welcome here. That's the message they are getting.

 

7 countries were touched by this EO.  That leaves 40 plus Muslim Majority countries that have no change including indonesia.  Of those 7, 6 are only 4 month pauses for security views.  The idea that ALL MUSLIMS are unwelcome here is a far left anti-conservative meme to drive public oppinion.  It has nothing to do with the truth of this policy. 



So I will pause here.. assume we had a time machine before that one attack. Would this measure of extreme vetting have stopped the attack? How so? Are you proposing any citizens not born here give up certain rights?

 

The woman had radical propoganda on her Social Media.  Basic background checking in her home country would have allowed anyone who took the time to see that she was associated with Radical groups.  Every person from countries associated with organized terror should have to affirmatively prove who they are, what values they hold, and their intentions toward this country.  That is the price that they would have to pay for the PRIVILEGE of entry into this great land.



My comment that all lives matter is simple. Families are fleeing wars they did not start. Fleeing violence they want no part of. And we have allowed Islamophobia to paralyze us with fear and prevent us from giving asylum to those who have few places to go. So the point is simple. All lives do not matter to those who coined that phrase in response to BLM. Because there's a noticeable asterisk next to it.

 

And that is not true.  As i stated before, caring for someone doesn't mean letting them pick out any room in your house or negate the sovereignty of a home owner or in this case a nation.  We can show our compassion for our fellow man by helping those who need it through the establishment of SAFE ZONES in their own countries.  This idea that the ONLY WAY we can help people is to allow unfettered access to the Mainland US is childish.

 

Moreover, Saudi Arabia, UAE and other oil Rich Majority countries have the ability to take these people.  As the Spiritual heads of certain parts of Islam Saudi Arabia has to maintain the infrastructure to house bed and feed millions of Islamic pilgrims every year.  What reason could they possibly cite for not being at the front of the line?  SECURITY!!!!  Why aren't people asking them to step up and shoulder the burden?  We are we with out 20 trillion dollars of debt, 95 million people out of the labor force, and ballooning unfunded entitlement liabilities always looked at to commit cultural suicide in the name of INCLUSION?

 

Quote:Perhaps you saw how the House of Commons and their response to the travel ban. Unanimous outrage on both sides of the house (if only our Congress could agree on something). 1.5 million people signed a petition to reject Trump's state visit (in a country of 64 million). Google Nadhim Zahawi, a conservative (Tory) MP and what he had to say. Whatever you're amateur analysis of Europe may be, Britain isn't subscribing.

 

This is shameful.  I cite the basic fact that Rape has gone up, Crime has gone up, Hate Crimes against the gay community have gone up and we have seen a string of Terror Attacks in the European theater and you come at me with what some Bureaucrat has to say.  So if a woman gets raped in the street and a politician blames the way she was dressed it didn't really happen then is what you're saying?  #womensmarch #alllivesmatter #liberalmonopolyoncompassion #hypocrisy #outoftouch #culturalsuicide

 

nevermind that 54% of Great Britain voted to leave the EU.  Nevermind the fact that Angella Merkel herself is having to campaign on banning Muslim Garb.  Nevermind the fact that in France they literally PUT MEN WITH MACHINE GUNS ON A BEACH to make sure people don't wear HIJABS while swiming.  Nadhim Zaawi says everythings fine and dandy so everything is going to be okay!!!

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