Quote:Unions here are pretty much all about <del>gathering</del> <del>confiscating</del> accepting union "dues" which is <del>earned</del> confiscated money from workers to give to the democrat party. Unions do nothing for pay and/or benefits as well as health or safety stuff.


I can give a very good example of this.


The company that I work for is non-union but has a CBA. We negotiated with the company to define wages and benefits.


The same company has another contract with the parent company, and they decided to go "union". They got "perceived" higher salaries than we did, but what they didn't factor into it was the union dues that they had to pay. It basically meant that their gross pay was higher than ours. However, the deduction of union dues isn't tax deductible and doesn't do anything for them. Once union dues along with all of the other taxes came out, the net take-home pay was the same. All it does is funnel money to the unions disguised as "making more money" than anybody else in the same industry. The fact of the matter is, an engineer working for the other arm of the company is still making the same amount that I do,. The difference is that engineer feeds money ultimately towards the democrat machine while I decide where money that I earn goes.


Unions are worthless.

It's sure is fun to pretend to know what you're talking about when in reality you're clueless.


I've been an Ironworker for 20 years. The first 10 years I worked with non-union companies. The attitude concerning safety was "You fall from the building, you're fired before you hit the ground." On the flip side when I joined the Ironworkers Union the attitude towards safety was "Every man goes home to their family every day." Quite the stark contrast. And to further my point: in the 10 years I worked non-union I never took a single safety class or was tested to see if I could pass a welding test. That kind of stuff costs money and they couldn't be spending on that when their grandkids need brand new Z71's.


I've have spent over 100 hours of my own time taking OSHA 30 class, 80 hour rigging course, Sub Part R course, and unlimited thickness bridge code welding certification. So to say that the union don't care about putting safe, qualified workers on job sites is a lie.


As far as dues are concerned, every member has the right to opt out of paying International dues with no penalty. The local dues are mandatory because the hall needs expense money to operate. And dues are tax deductible.


It's funny to me that Unions were highly regarded when "The Greatest Generation" worked union jobs and were able to provide a nice living for their families with a nice retirement pension waiting at the end for them, but screw the later generations because they back a political party that many older people dislike.

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