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Right to Work gaining momentum

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02-08-2017, 08:11 AM

Quote:It's sure is fun to pretend to know what you're talking about when in reality you're clueless.


I've been an Ironworker for 20 years. The first 10 years I worked with non-union companies. The attitude concerning safety was "You fall from the building, you're fired before you hit the ground." On the flip side when I joined the Ironworkers Union the attitude towards safety was "Every man goes home to their family every day." Quite the stark contrast. And to further my point: in the 10 years I worked non-union I never took a single safety class or was tested to see if I could pass a welding test. That kind of stuff costs money and they couldn't be spending on that when their grandkids need brand new Z71's.


I've have spent over 100 hours of my own time taking OSHA 30 class, 80 hour rigging course, Sub Part R course, and unlimited thickness bridge code welding certification. So to say that the union don't care about putting safe, qualified workers on job sites is a lie.


As far as dues are concerned, every member has the right to opt out of paying International dues with no penalty. The local dues are mandatory because the hall needs expense money to operate. And dues are tax deductible.


It's funny to me that Unions were highly regarded when "The Greatest Generation" worked union jobs and were able to provide a nice living for their families with a nice retirement pension waiting at the end for them, but screw the later generations because they back a political party that many older people dislike.
 

It sounds like you've had a very positive experience with union representation.  A lot of people have had positive experiences with union representation.  That's why they should be able to compete for membership with the services they provide in a cost risk analysis of the liability of dues they will collect. 

 

Right to work doesn't break up unions, it breaks up union monopolies so that the union itself is required to maintain your level of satisfaction and not just mandate your participation.

 

In many many cases, to Jags point, Unions have had to increase services and decrease dues to attract workers and in reality this has increased union participation in some states. 

 

The freer the market, including the labor market, the more choices people have and the better the outcomes for everyone involved.
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-06-2017, 05:48 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by KodiakJag - 02-07-2017, 05:44 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-07-2017, 06:49 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-07-2017, 03:52 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by WingerDinger - 02-07-2017, 05:51 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-07-2017, 06:15 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-07-2017, 06:36 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-07-2017, 07:57 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by EricC85 - 02-07-2017, 08:21 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by EricC85 - 02-07-2017, 08:22 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jj82284 - 02-07-2017, 09:02 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-07-2017, 10:13 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-07-2017, 10:25 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by Indy2Jax - 02-07-2017, 11:12 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by KYjaggy - 02-08-2017, 01:08 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Dakota - 02-08-2017, 01:13 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-08-2017, 02:27 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jj82284 - 02-08-2017, 08:07 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jj82284 - 02-08-2017, 08:11 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-08-2017, 08:25 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jj82284 - 02-08-2017, 08:28 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-08-2017, 08:40 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by KodiakJag - 02-08-2017, 09:11 AM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by Guest - 02-08-2017, 09:54 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Perkolater - 02-08-2017, 10:17 AM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by Perkolater - 02-09-2017, 08:50 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by WingerDinger - 02-09-2017, 09:40 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Guest - 02-09-2017, 10:04 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Perkolater - 02-09-2017, 10:13 AM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by pirkster - 02-09-2017, 10:13 AM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by Indy2Jax - 02-09-2017, 11:44 AM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-09-2017, 02:41 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by EricC85 - 02-09-2017, 02:43 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by copycat - 02-09-2017, 03:16 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Indy2Jax - 02-09-2017, 04:01 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-09-2017, 04:06 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-09-2017, 05:05 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Dakota - 02-09-2017, 05:07 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Indy2Jax - 02-09-2017, 05:11 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-09-2017, 05:29 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by KodiakJag - 02-10-2017, 06:19 AM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by jj82284 - 02-10-2017, 01:42 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by Dakota - 02-10-2017, 01:55 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-10-2017, 03:21 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jj82284 - 02-10-2017, 04:06 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by KodiakJag - 02-11-2017, 06:23 AM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-12-2017, 05:43 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-12-2017, 05:45 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by KodiakJag - 02-12-2017, 06:29 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by jagibelieve - 02-12-2017, 06:36 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by Dakota - 02-12-2017, 07:46 PM
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Right to Work gaining momentum - by Dakota - 02-12-2017, 08:25 PM
Right to Work gaining momentum - by lastonealive - 02-12-2017, 10:30 PM
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