Quote:I don't know, but it seems like players always do better there, then they do when they leave. 

It's a combination of things that make that impression, IMO. 

 

The entire roster benefits in different ways from playing on probably the most effectively prepared and schemed team of the past decade or so, but there are different degrees of it. 

 

• There are good players that leave that system and don't look "great" again because the pats brass simply knew more about their injuries and conditioning issues than the next team that picked them up.
  
• Sometimes father time has caught them.  
  
• There are players that simply move to rosters with much less talent and don't benefit accordingly.
  
• There are players that get a big paycheck and phone it in. 
  
• There are guys who had a specific (suited to their strength)  role with the pats and are asked to do too much (or something outside their wheelhouse) with the next team. 
  

 

I think that being on a team with an elite QB and a chess master on the sideline is always going to help players look better, but it's a sliding scale and should be analyzed individually.  

You can't just say - "This player is only good because of the system" without actually making some attempt to assess how much he is or isn't better because of that system. 

 

Anyway - that's how I try to view players coming out of the pats org. 

 

For instance - I still trust my pre-draft assessment of Garoppolo.  I wouldn't trade a first but I'd consider a second rounder because that's where I had him as an option for the Jaguars to draft when he came out. 

Did he look better with Belichick scheming for him than he would with most other teams?  Absolutely.

But I don't think he's going to pull on Osweiler on the next team that acquires him either. I think he'll be good and could potentially turn out to be a "franchise" QB.

---