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Big boy D-Line next season

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Quote:Its not about him not beating them out. Its about not spending all of our resources to allocate a player to the bench when we can use another million combinations of those resources to do the same thing while still having yannick or fowler start and gettijg blue chip players at other positions. You literally just said you believe Fowler can be a tier below von miller while already being good against the run. So why in the world would you put him on the bench. Yeah yeah rotation! the giants had endless pass rushers! Id like to be spared the cliches and jargon, thats just a mismanagement of our resources. But were going to keep disagreeing on Yannick and Fowler so this is kind of a waste anyways.
Did I say anything about what the Giants did or having endless pass rushers? Don't box my thoughts into preconceived notions. I'm purely making an assessment on what is best for this roster given what we have to evaluate from last year. There is no way in the world you can tell me we should not sign JPP after we were almost dead last in the league in pressures. Likewise, you cannot tell me that if Jonathan Allen is there when we pick and he is the top player on our board that we shouldn't take him just because we have Ngakoue and Fowler, which is basically what you're saying. Neither one showed enough last year to make you from feel comfortable at the position when building this team, and going into the offseason thinking we are fine at pass rusher is asinine. Even with me feeling that Fowler will be good I can still acknowledge that. What is best for this team is ensuring the pass rush will be good, and that means signing JPP and taking Allen if he is there. Completely banking on Fowler and Ngakoue to take the next step is foolhardy proposition when you can acquire two better players and hedge your bets regardless, and if they both improve then we have an all world DL rotation, if we don't then we're still good. To think this is a problematic proposition because of one pick, which you overexaggerate as "another million combinations", is short sighted.

 

What we're really talking about here is one pick, because we have more than enough FA money to sign JPP and whoever else we want and not having to worry about being cash strapped in the future. What it really comes down to is the 4th pick, and in reality there are probably only 3-4 options at that pick for us and by the time the draft roles around that will probably be dwindled to a solid three if we acquire a S in FA or re-sign Cyprien; Jonathan Allen, Leonard Fournette, and Solomon Thomas. Since Allen and Thomas are essentially the same kind of player we can lump them in the same boat so you're talking about either taking your 5T, interior rushing D-lineman or Fournette. While Fournette is nice I will take the future All-Pro lineman over the All-Pro RB every time, and we should if Allen/Thomas is higher on our board. From there we can draft a OL in the second round and trade back up for one of the RBs. There is nothing wrong with that scenario and in my mind is the best case to improve this team to the fullest.

 

Quote:I laugh a little when people on here tell us to "watch the tape" like we're sitting around all day watching game film from the last 3-13 season. 

 

We watched the games too but we don't call it "watching the tape." 
I watch the All-22, that is the "tape". I can clearly tell from how you're talking you don't, and the rest of you aren't either since you're just buying into the narrative that ngakoue is a savant or something. Watching the game live and watching the All-22 is completely different. But continue to be ignorant.

 

Quote:Just to make himself look more knowledgeable/whatever he says is gospel about the subject.
Sorry I actually watch tape.

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<p style="text-align:center;">But that same man can get lost in the sauce."
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Big boy D-Line next season - by Vino - 01-27-2017, 09:24 PM
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