(07-14-2018, 02:37 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:

(07-14-2018, 02:06 PM)mikesez Wrote: Did you read the DoJ report about the Ferguson MO police department?

Here's what the conservative blog RedState had to say about it:
"Even if you read only the parts of the Ferguson DOJ report that come directly from the files of the FPD (which is to say, files that would be most favorable to the Department), the report paints an incredibly damning picture of the Ferguson Police Department"

https://www.redstate.com/leon_h_wolf/201...oj-report/

DoJ is no longer trying to find which departments lose sight of their mission like this.  The problem didn't go away.  We just decided to stop looking for it.

Well, I thought we were talking about Trump's negative influence on minorities, and that example doesn't prove anything. You haven't show a current, modern-day problem created by the Trump DoJ on minority communities. You're speculating here. 

We've gone over Ferguson several times here, so I'm not going to derail this thread too much. The point made in the article you quoted essentially focuses on speculation that the policies in Ferguson can potentially lead to corruption, and because minorities receive the brunt of their attention, then they're basically corrupt or biased. It ignores demographics of the community and makes a lot of assumptions. 

The point, however, was to show how Trump is creating these problems. Ferguson is a [BLEEP] hole. The problem was never with the police department. It was with the community. Needlessly targeting and searching for corruption is a waste of time and money since it isn't as frequent as you think it is. Punish it when you find it or investigate it when there's suspicion, but Trump ending that search is practical because nothing mentioned in that article showed the police department's attack on minorities which is the point you're trying to make about Trump.

You're right that I haven't submitted evidence that Trump's action of stopping this type of investigation at DoJ has made matters worse.  That's the funny thing about refusing to investigate something, isn't it? That suddenly there's less evidence? Convenient.  

The policies in Ferguson *were* corruption.  It wasn't just that the people stopped or arrested were disproportionately black.  Within the group of people that got stopped, violent escalation was more likely against black suspect.  Reports of leniency or warnings were more frequent with white suspects.
Using court fines to fund a city is corruption.  Having no mechanism for indigent or low income people to do community service in lieu of a fine is corruption.  Quotas for officers to stop, arrest, or fine fixed numbers of people are corruption.
I don't understand what you mean by "the problem isn't the police department but the community." Let's say you're right.  How does one fix that community? Does arresting people for forgetting to mow their lawn sound like a way to improve the community to you?

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