(11-16-2018, 02:27 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: (11-16-2018, 01:48 PM)mikesez Wrote: JagNGeorgia, try to disregard who the post was from and consider it on the merits. Adam2012 is 100% right this time.
Maybe Trump could simply stop calling on Acosta. He never had to call on Acosta in the first place, last week.
Trump called on Acosta so that he could take an opportunity to insult Acosta and the organization he works for. At any time while Acosta was holding the mic, Trump could have broken eye contact and called on someone else. He didn't. He *wanted* to keep talking about Acosta and keep talking about CNN, to make *them* keep talking about *him*.
If you can't see that all of it, including what's being said today, was a theatrical move fit for professional wrestling or "reality" TV, please, go outside for a while and meet some real people and get a fresh perspective on life.
But he isn't.
You can't claim that Trump wants to stifle free speech and say that he wants to call on Acosta, or you can't say he wants Acosta there to insult him while also saying that he wants to get rid of him by revoking his press pass. Those two arguments don't jive. Trump isn't going to avoid Acosta because he isn't scared of him. He revoked Acosta's pass because of Acosta's behavior.
Trump repeatedly told Acosta to sit down and made it clear that he no longer intended to answer his questions. Acosta, instead, spoke over him and continued despite Trump calling on others. He broke eye contact four times and called on someone else two times. Trump said, "That's enough" seven times. How in the world can you interpret that as him wanting that exchange with Acosta / CNN? I don't need to "go outside", but you may need to watch the video again.
(11-16-2018, 01:53 PM)Kane Wrote: I hate Acosta and think he's a turd. I agreed with Trump's action/punishment... and I also agree with this judge ordering it be reissued.
The slap on the wrist for being a bad boy in the press pit served its purpose and exposed Jim for what he is.
I agree that he should get it back but with the White House's approval. This should be a slap on the wrist (as you said).
The issue with a judge saying that a revocation of one's press pass is a violation of the 1st and 5th amendment is saying that everyone is entitled to a press pass.
I totally get that because it sets a bad precedent.
But not everyone is entitled to a press pass and I don't think that is what this judge is saying. It's just that Trump can't go around pulling press passes willy nilly. There is a real conversation to be had on how Acosta acts and how the press should act regardless of who is President... but Trump can't be allowed to just start pulling passes freely anymore than we can allow other politicians to take gun rights away so easily or personal medical rights. Just like a President shouldn't have been allowed to pass legislature than forced people to buy a product.....
but I digress.