(01-11-2019, 11:10 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 11:06 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: Downtown is dirty, man. The roads suck. The planning is pathetic.

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I don't get any of that ^ when I go downtown.  
No issues with any of those things.

Ehh. I would have to agree with trivialpursuit on this one. I have done a bit of work down town for a contract I have with JEA for my small business(I have a small pressure washing company I started in college about 10 years ago) and as much as I want to say down town is on the rise, I have yet to see any evidence of this. I get contracted to do work on the sidewalks and curbs around the city and honestly I leave with the same feeling every time: " I just polished a turd".

I will say that is not for a lack of effort. The city does do quite a bit to try and clean up the inner city but, so far, I feel like it is far too little, too late. Just an example, I cleaned up a block on forsyth and main that took 2 days(only took 2 days because the landscaping on the palms was running behind). The first day went without a problem but when I came out for the second day, I walked around what I had already cleaned to find 3 shattered bottles, both trash cans that boarder the streets had been emptied onto the sidewalk and curb, and a homeless person who was fairly aggravated that I was going to be running a machine in earshot of where he was trying to sleep. Didn't bother me very much I cleaned up and put the trash can back and got to work. By the end of that day, I walked back around the corner that was messed up that morning and found the trash can back out on the sidewalk and chicken wings everywhere with a shattered bottle. I had a walk through the next morning so I cleaned it up a second time and took pictures before and after just in case it happened again. The next morning when I was on my way to the walk through I got a call from JEA asking me if I had seen the trash on side walks or the shattered bottles when I was cleaning the day before. I explained what happened and showed them the pictures and they understood. 

This is not all the cities fault but this happens regularly when I work down town. There is only so much the city can do about the homeless people but honestly I almost feel bad when im pressure washing the sidewalks because they pay me good money for something I know will go almost unnoticed by the next day. 

I think it is a combination of that mixed with the run down areas that surround down town and the stadium area that make it an undesirable area. It is one thing to eat somewhere and have a cocktail at bar in the area, but it something else to live in an area. I don't think many of us on the board would give up our current homes to move somewhere downtown.

Recently me and my wife were looking at homes and one of the listings was close to down town. The train of thought that lead me away from the listing was: 'would I want my wife going to grocery store after dark in an area like this'. I think that is something that plays into a lot of peoples decision making when considering those areas.

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(01-11-2019, 11:33 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 10:57 AM)Bullseye Wrote: How does it compare to Ruth's Chris?

I haven't been to Ruth's Chris in ages, so I can't say.  I did have the best steak of my life there (Cowford Chophouse) the other night.  You know how a ribeye is laid out, with the eye in the middle and the "cap" around it.   That "cap" is the tenderest and juiciest part of the ribeye.   So the steak I had was just that cap part, cut in the shape of a steak, and it was the tenderest, tastiest, and juiciest steak I've ever had.   Only $85, haha.  Fortunately, someone else was buying.

way off topic but have you tried a tomahawk ribeye? incredibly expensive but that was the best cut I have every had.

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