(03-06-2019, 11:52 AM)TJBender Wrote:

(03-04-2019, 06:20 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: As someone that was directly involved with the program I can tell you that's a false allegation.  While I agree with MalibarJag that we way overspent on the F-35 when the F-22 is a much more superior jet (my opinion), the F-35 is actually going onto full production and is being delivered to the military.

The thing about this though is the topic of this thread is "Waste of Tax Payer Dollars".  I think that a much bigger waste than military spending (mandated by The Constitution) is the needless and useless waste of money spent on more "investigations" of "collusion" or now the term is "obstruction".  How much of our tax payer dollars are being spent on this?  Is it Congress's job to "investigate" or is their job to legislate and create laws?

Cost of a single F-35 that loses to a Sopwith Camel because the pilot blows chunks all over his face during a dogfight: $89 million (https://www.defensenews.com/air/2018/09/...-new-deal/)
Total cost of the Mueller investigation as of December 2018: $25 million (http://fortune.com/2018/12/14/mueller-in...ax-cheats/)

Try again, chief.

Why are you latching on to an incident like throwing up in a helmet? Do you think it is a rare occurance? Physiological incidents happen daily in every fighter across the spectum. You are crossing the boundaries of normal human tolerances. Look up 9g min turn and you'll see how punishing flight can be. Tax payers would cringe if they knew the number of Class A Mishaps and what they cost annually due to incidents. I would consider these to be opporational costs, not government waste like the numerous probes and highering of outside counsel and whatever other costs involved.

(03-04-2019, 10:31 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: The Navy needed a new plane. So did the Marines. But trying to build a plane that fits a "multiple role" use means that you get a plane that isn't best at anything. To me, that's a waste. And the Warthog is still a better anti-tank plane.

There's a reason that one of the last causes John McCain pushed in the Senate was to keep the A-10 program alive instead of "replacing" it with a squishy fighter jet that can't handle anywhere near the punishment that a Warthog can. Long live the Hog.

That was because there wasn't an operational replacement just yet. The F-35 and F-22 can fill the same role and at greater distance. In fact, the F-22 has been performing outside it's role for the last three years supporting CAS in the middle east.