(05-30-2019, 11:23 AM)Adam2012 Wrote:

(05-30-2019, 10:54 AM)Last42min Wrote: Why can't you just see it for what it is? There wasn't evidence to convict Trump for any criminal wrongdoing, but there are enough question marks for an impeachment, if the House was inclined to do so. This much was clear from his testimony yesterday. Once Mueller examined the evidence, he didn't have a strong enough claim for a criminal charge. So, instead of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, he included those incidents which he thought would legitimize impeachment proceedings. 


Mueller does not state that he would have brought charges if the OLC opinion didn't exist, and that question is never addressed by him. In fact, Mueller basically stated that he would not answer that question. He went so far as to make clear that, if even he were subpoenaed, he wouldn't answer any questions that weren't covered in his report. If he were to answer the above question, it would bring a lot of criticism on himself, fairly or unfairly. 

This doesn't mean he lied about it, either. He didn't claim it was the exclusive reason he didn't bring charges. He didn't bring obstruction charges against anyone else he investigated, even though they aren't a sitting President. Mueller simply used the OLC opinion as an excuse. The OLC opinion is simply a convenient mechanism that he can use to deflect the ire that will come from half of the populace if Trump is or isn't punished. Once he found no criminal charges, he determined his best play was to pass the buck to the House for impeachment. Imo, he's trying to make it out of this as unscathed as possible, and I don't blame him. 

If the House wants to impeach, they have his report. 

There is no reason to believe Barr is a liar. All of the evils being attributed to him have been debunked by Mueller himself.

While I agree with much of what you say, I think it's clear that Barr lied. Just compare what Barr said a few weeks ago and what Mueller said yesterday. One of them isn't being straight with the public, and since Mueller wrote the report ...

Why do you think Mueller made his in-person statement? He wasn't required to and he doesn't want to testify. I'm sure Mueller isn't surprised that Donald lied - that's what Donald does. But I'm sure Mueller wanted to set the record straight - after Barr spun, misrepresented (i.e., lied) about Mueller's conclusions.

When Fox News (Fox!) (Brett Baier and Andrew Napolitano) point out that Mueller was contradicting what Barr had said, you know you have issues with the truth.

Mueller made it clear that he wasn't working towards indicting Donald because of the OLC guidelines. His job was to collect information and turn it over to the DOJ, Congress, and the American people. Now it's up to them (us).

Also - Trumpettes - you DO NOT want to read the Mueller Report, not that there is much chance of that happening. Embarrassing.

And today we have Donald saying the Russians did help him get elected. No, wait. No they didn't. And that Mueller guy is a sleazy never-Trumper, although three
weeks ago he was an honorable guy.

I'm really going to miss The Trump Clown Show when it's gone. Comedy on a daily basis.