(07-15-2019, 02:05 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(07-15-2019, 01:29 PM)mikesez Wrote: I think you're just using hyperbole. 
I hope you are, I mean.
If you change "anyone" to "everyone" ... those are fair statements.  
$15 an hour will take PLENTY of people off of social programs.  All of them? By no means.  
The conversation about $15/hour should revolve around the fact that there will be fewer jobs, but also fewer people who have jobs and still need welfare.  It might help the government's budget and make more people happy, it might not.  But that's where the conversation should be.  Compare who is helped to who is hurt, add it up and decide if it still comes out positive.
But don't deny that some people will be helped.  Some people will be helped.  Admit it.
Only a moron lets the perfect be the enemy of the good.

$15 an hour won't mean a damn thing when the prices inflate to account for the cost.

Raising the minimum wage does risk inflation.
But most people already earn more than $15 an hour, so the change wouldn't change their outlook or spending habits directly.
And even so, even if it caused inflation, it's far from given that inflation would totally wipe out everyone's wage gains.
This stuff is complicated.  It can't be written off with one-liners.

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(07-15-2019, 02:12 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:

(07-15-2019, 02:05 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: $15 an hour won't mean a damn thing when the prices inflate to account for the cost.

They don't understand this. If I didn't have him blocked, I'd actually love to hear him explain how $15 was decided on as a "living wage". Why not $20?

I don't know.
I wasn't involved in the conversation.
But I'd assume it has a lot more to do with striking the right balance between ambition and plausibility, than it does with any actual household budget.
I don't think rushing to a $15/hour minimum wage is good or right.
But I do think that we'll get there eventually in Florida because our minimum wage already automatically indexes to inflation.

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