(08-06-2019, 10:02 PM)MalabarJag Wrote:

(08-06-2019, 08:38 PM)mikesez Wrote: 1) the Pulse shooter called 911, and posted to Facebook, saying clearly and lucidly that he was acting on behalf of ISIS.

2) "invasion" means that the newcomer is harming the host. The Spanish speaking guy mowing your lawn while his wife takes their kids to an English speaking school is not harming this country, unless unemployment is high, and even then only in an indirect and non-malicious sense.

1) Nonetheless, [BLEEP] #14 was known as an unstable individual before this, and not all of it was based on his beliefs.

2) There are some who are illegally entering who do harm. Just the disruption they cause from the political infighting is harming the US. And while it was true for earlier illegal crossings, the "lawn mowing" guy is not typical of those entering the US since 2009, most are coming to live off of US largess.

1)I don't know who #14 is but yes, there are at least some who are genuinely unstable and mentally ill.

2) we agree on this.  Most are hoping to claim asylum because if you get enrolled as someone who needs asylum, you get nearly every benefit a full citizen has right away.  And we should examine all such people, and send the ones whose claims aren't sure back. Only about 1 in 6 are legit.  At the same time, we do have low unemployment right now and we could use more people even if they don't speak good English yet.  We need to offer more slots for legal immigration - the kind where you can't collect any welfare for a few years but you can legally work.  Most of the people trying to claim asylum have no chance of getting one of those slots because they don't have a family connection or special skill.  We can change that and bring them in legally but without welfare.  But Trump irrationally wants to do the opposite.

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