(10-25-2019, 04:22 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(10-24-2019, 08:43 PM)JackCity Wrote: Based on literally every bit of reporting we've seen on the situation. 

Have you seen any reporting that said Jalen invented the story?

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I quite literally said we'll never know what was said. 
And if there is a constant theme of disrespect between boss and employee then smaller incidents can have more gravity,.which may  be the case here with Jalen and Tom.  

All that really matters is Tom undermined his head coach and the best player felt disrespected. Both are negative outcomes from en executive standpoint and not defensible in my view

You speculated what you thought happened. Then contradicted that with "we'll never know." 

Then claimed that your speculation of what might have happened caused something - and that thing is "indefensible."   Sure it's "indefensible, if it actually [BLEEP] happened! Which we don't know. 

Stop pretending you know TC and/or the F.O. in general chased off a player. 
You can't know this to be true. We don't have that information. 

It could have been TC and/or Caldwell more to blame here. It could have been the immature and emotional Ramsey at fault for being overly offended or just simply wanting out.  

Assumptions here appear unwise.  Your speculation isn't fact.

It's not this difficult I promise. 

Nobody is saying they know definitively what happened, everyone is operating under what they "think" happened. 

The two things which I mentioned as "indefensible" are both things which are pretty easy to see for me i.e Marrone being undermined and Jalen "feeling disrespected" 

I've been consistent in saying both parties are to blame so I don't why you think I'm presenting a singular argument.

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