(10-25-2019, 10:51 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(10-25-2019, 05:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: If he undermined the coach thats between Tom and Doug.  The VP has more than enough right to talk to a player if he wants, he is over the coach.  Just like if an owner wants to talk to a player, you dont think he has the right?  lol

You're smarter than this..I think. Different jobs in an organization have different roles. 

Just because Tom is VP doesn't give him carte blanche to do whatever he wants as it relates to the team without it negatively impacting or infringing on others jobs

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(10-25-2019, 05:55 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: You don't know what reason he had for doing what he did. He hasn't said what he told Ramsey, and Ramsey, despite telling his side of it, hasn't even so much as implied what was said to him. For all we know, Coughlin could've been perfectly respectful, and Ramsey is just using this situation to gain support from teammates instead of outright demanding a trade. You seem to make a lot of assumptions about the situation, but we don't know what was said to Ramsey or if it was out-of-bounds.

OR perhaps both parties are at fault? As has been the case in this entire situation imo.

We already know Tom has crossed the line in public comments about players, why do you think he would be extra respectful in private? He also has a track record going back 20+ years.

I never said Coughlin was blameless in all this. I’m simply pointing out that we don’t know. I wouldn’t at all be surprised if Coughlin was disrespectful. However, what p_rushing said is spot on. Ramsey gains nothing from not revealing what was said, and if we know anything about Ramsey, he’s all about himself. I just finding it more likely that Ramsey blew this up so that he can gain support.

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