(04-19-2020, 05:34 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(04-18-2020, 11:27 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: All those guys were here in 2018 and what happened?
Most of those guys were here last year and what happened?

Only Ramsey and CC would make a difference, Ramsey was being a [BLEEP], he is a diva and a cancer, it was a good move to trade him. Rams are gonna regret that trade soon enough. CC is getting old and we are not doing anything this season anyway, we have the same lame GM, HC and DC.

In 2018, we had an incredible slate of injuries along the OL.  By midseason, we were down to our FOURTH LT, an established bust who was on another team's roster the opening week of the season when we played them.  That made it impossible for this team to win consistently.  Even with that, the defense still finished in the top ten (though admittedly it wasn't as good as it had been in 2017.

But I find it odd that you'd think Dareus wouldn't make a difference considering four of the five games we allowed 195 yards rushing or more happened after he was injured vs Cincinnati in October and placed on IR. 

I know that when talented players try to get new contracts from their teams, fans tend to minimize their contributions and vilify them.  Nevertheless, I still find it somewhat odd you would suggest Ngakoue wouldn't make a difference on the team.  This is from the team's website:  https://www.jaguars.com/team/players-ros...k-ngakoue/ 

Quote:PRO (Games played/started - 63/62, 3/3)
• Led the league with six forced fumbles in 2017 en route to his first career Pro Bowl nod
• His 37.5 career sacks rank second in franchise history
• Of his 37.5 career sacks, 12 have been strip-sacks
• His 37.5 sacks are the most by a Jaguars player through 63 career games in franchise history
• His 14 forced fumbles are the fourth-most in the NFL since 2016
• Is the only player over the last decade in the NFL to post at least 37.5 sacks and 14 forced fumbles through 63 career games
• Is currently tied for the most multi-sack games in franchise history

All at just 25 years old.  Funny that the team has repeatedly expressed interest in bringing Ngakoue back, and has gone as far as to franchise him and demand a minimum if a first round pick in exchange for him.

I find it odd you would think we wouldn't miss AJ Bouye.  Did Bouye have a great year last year?  No.  Not many players did.  But now instead of one CB we need to replace, we have two starters we need to replace.  That affects  our draft strategy now.  

Also falling into the odd category is your assertion that Gardner Minshew won't miss Fournette at all considering he was the team's leading receiver in terms of receptions last year, the team's leading rusher, and is experienced in blitz pickup.  Is Fournette an elite back?  No.  Was he the best possible use of the 4th overall pick in 2017?  No.  But if we go with a rookie RB this year, there is no guarantee he'll produce some 1600 combined rushing and receiving yards, to say nothing of blitz pickup, especially in this current environment-even if we hit on his replacement in the draft.

Dareus is getting old and has had problems with injuries... didn't someone say that even if we resigned him he wouldn't be available for the first few games? either way he is coming from and injury and getting old, who knows how effective he will be, it would be a big risk to give him big money.
I think you are the one giving too much credit to Ngakoue. Again, he was in there the last 2 seasons making lil difference. Again, go back and check his last year sacks, most of them vs garbage teams and/or backups. Not to mention he had awful plays vs the run. Allen is far superior and will be better giving here more time. Smoot had 6 sack in lil playing time and I have no doubt he can be better vs the run than Ngakoue.
Bouye was great in 2017, he was average the last 2 seasons.

Point is, even with those players the team has been garbage. 
I honestly don't see why you are worried, it is obvious that with or without those players this team is gonna suck this year, unless Minshew plays at truly deserving Pro bowl level this will be a bad season.
Need to remind you how bad Todd Wash is?

Giving too much credit to Fournette too, you might wanna go back and check threads from the start of the season when a lot of people realized and even posted videos that showed Fournette has no vision. 4.0 per carry is nothing special. 3 TD's last season. Catches? cool, too bad he couldn't make anyone miss a tackle.

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