(05-22-2020, 09:51 AM)JackCity Wrote:

(05-20-2020, 03:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Your first paragraph is speculative unless you have numbers to back up Campbell being a particular focus of blocking when he was moved inside. I'd wager that happened quite rarely. 
I'd counter your "that is all gone now"  assertion with the more accurate "that is all different now." 

It's not at all farfetched to think that Allen will draw similar interest from blocking schemes from the outside. 
The only thing we're really missing from Calais departure is that you have to alter the package that featured Calais Campbell moving inside with a Smoot-type -  or whomever wins that role. 
His role on the outside isn't going to be some big drop-off. 
Now, when you consider that they are focusing on putting three run stuffers up front on a regular basis, that difference is even more diminished. Then go ahead and factor in that Campbell is yet a year older. 

I'd like to see what they've really got cooked up scheme-wise and see who ends up getting snaps inside on pass rushing downs before painting it with the doom/gloom brush. I wouldn't attempt to rank it against other groups in the league as I don't know which players will dominate snaps inside vs the pass.
Clearly we've got to stop the run first if we're going to even have obvious pass rushing downs to defend -  and that was cleary their focus this offseason at NT/DT.

It's not speculation to say teams block differently and run plays differently when a player of Calais caliber is inside vs without. It's a huge boon for a defense to have that gap versatile monster inside or outside 

Thats pretty much the point though. It's easier for teams to devote attention to one edge (such as Allen) without needing to devote more attention inside, having a great interior pressure players inside helps outside players a lot, again, that is not there now.

And I think you are focusing too much on a base defense of 3 run stuffers when the downs that are actually more relevant to the loss of Calais as a pass rusher inside will have two interior players who will need to be disruptive. Also, you still need a lot of disruption inside for a lot of 3-4s to work. 

Stopping the run is good, but won't matter much if the pass rush unit is way worse (which it will if Yannick doesn't play) and that's even aside from Todd Wash trying to design coverage without a very good pass rush for the first time ever

It's speculation. Because you are guessing how much teams altered their blocking scheme to account for Calais at DT.
And I believe you are overstating it. 

I, in turn, am speculating that teams accounted for him MUCH more at big end than they did at DT.  I think the vast majority of his meaningful pass rush snaps came from the outside and when Campbell got pressure inside  - the primary focus of opponents' blocking was on Allen and Ngakoue outside. 

We'll miss him. I wanted him around one more year. But I don't think our interior pressure game fell off the map because of his absence. It wasn't a major part of our defense after Dareus got hurt anyway. It was more just disruption inside and pressure from the edges. The Dareus loss is a greater one in terms of interior pressure IMO. 

Anyway,  I'd still like to see what our pass rush packages look like and who the actual personnel is before writing them off as unable to generate inside pressure.  I'm going to cross my fingers that you're being as overly pessimistic here as you were last year about our receivers at this stage of the offseason.

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