(07-31-2020, 06:01 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-31-2020, 05:38 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: Once again you have no idea what you are talking about.

1.  2 of our carriers are over 40 years old and 3 of them are over 30 years old.  They are rapidly nearing end-of-life.  I (unlike you) happened to serve on a 30 year old ship.  It's not good.

2.  The Coast Guard is not part of the DoD.  They fall under The Department of Homeland Security the same as U.S. Customs and Boarder Patrol.

3.  The National Guard is a reserve component of the military.  They can and should be able to deploy anywhere at anytime.

1) if we abandon the five carriers that you say are over 30 years old, we would still have 14 carriers, more than every other Navy in the world combined.

2) ok. Their ships tend to be 50 and 60 years old. Regardless of which budget line item they are under, it seems that they should get more.

3) you are begging the question. My assertion is that it should not be this way, and you say I'm wrong because it is that way. One of the worst logical fallacies there is.  my point is that it should be possible to volunteer to be one of the people who responds during floods and earthquakes and hurricanes and not be liable to be forced to join in on our next foreign adventure / war of choice. of course the difference for you is you probably never saw a war you didn't like.

Try again snowflake.

1.  We currently only have 12 active carriers.  12 - 5 != 14.  You also have no idea what the deployment/maintenance/training/work-up cycle is for not only the ship, but the aircraft that operate on it.  One other thing to think about... the aircraft carrier is one of the reasons why we won the war in the Pacific back in WWII.

2.  We are discussing the military here, not law enforcement.

3.  The National Guard is a reserve component of the military.  Their primary job is to augment active duty units.  If one wants to volunteer to be one of the people who responds during floods, earthquakes and hurricanes perhaps the Red Cross or some other organization would be the better choice.  Trust me.  When I hear the gunfire and the explosions that take place at Camp Blanding it isn't because they are training for natural disasters.  The Air National Guard doesn't fly F-15's out of Jaxport to fight fires.

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