(11-09-2020, 08:59 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(11-09-2020, 08:31 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: I dunno. Civility ended in the 60s. There was a lot of unrest. Moreso than now. I'm sure everyone thought that wasn't going to ever end... yet, eventually, it did.

That's the thing about time and history.. everyone thinks THEIR moment is the most important, the hardest hit, the worst thing ever....

But back then law-abiding black people were attacked with hoses, dogs, nightsticks and nonstop violence for nothing. Now, when SOME black people deserve it, it's somehow called racism.

There were a lot of protests and riots in the late 1960s, yes, but the Presidents and congressmen were very respectful even as all that went on.
The two big figures of escalating disrespect were Newt Gingrich and Donald Trump.  Obama was respectful in his tone and his choice of words, however, he left no room for dissent in his policy prescriptions, and that's disrespectful too.
Pretty much all the other Presidents and leaders of Congress over my life would just needle their opponents.  Ridicule, yes, but usually in a way that invited give and take.  Trump and Gingrich were too offensive and demonized too much.  While Obama didn't respect the process of conversation and negotiation.

So.. is there any hope? Biden is a moron and buffoon that couldn't even raise his own son to be a good contributing member of society. Trump is an [BLEEP] and we can all agree on that. But Kamala Harris is an idiotic, moronic communist that wants to take away the good law-abiding people's guns.... does our country even stand a chance?

Ron DeSantis 2024?

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