(12-02-2020, 08:34 AM)hb1148 Wrote:

(12-01-2020, 07:23 PM)jaguarmvp Wrote: I think stability only works when it is successful. We were stable at losing for years. Too much patience is also a very bad thing. Many people outside the organization saw this coming.

Yep that was exactly my point. Hopefully he's now recognized the error of his ways.

I think the key question is, how long do you wait?  I think you have to give a coach/GM some time.  You can't constantly recycle through front office and coaching personnel.  You've got to give them a few years.  It's easy to say that 'we stuck with X too long' after the fact.  In 20/20 hindsight, it's obvious that we stuck with some people too long since ownership has changed.  But I think you have to stick with someone a while.  But what's too long?  Three years?  Four?  I think 2017 bought the current regime a few years, and maybe even 2018 when they were down to starting street level free agents on the OL. 

It's a fine line.  

And I know...I know...it's an extreme example.  But Belichick had a losing record in his first year in NE and losing records in 5 of his first six seasons in Cleveland and NE combined.

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