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If not Blake, who is your choice?
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(02-13-2018, 09:42 AM)JUNGLE CAT 2017 Wrote: I've been throwing the name of A. J. McCarron around hoping that Tom will do whatever is necessary to secure his services. Wow. Are you A.J.'s agent? If not perhaps you should be. Of course, most of what you wrote is pure conjecture, with a positive spin - but that's what agents do. If Bortles is released and McCarron is signed (assuming he becomes a free agent; I'm also assuming he wouldn't be signed to be Bortles' backup. I sure don't think Caldwell would give up a second rounder for a backup) why would McCarron accept a "modest three year deal" - especially if he's going to be the franchise QB for the next ten years. If Bortles is retained I think Coughlin/Caldwell bet on Bortles' durability and select a QB in the third round or so.
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We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-13-2018, 08:54 PM)Adam2012 Wrote:(02-12-2018, 12:21 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Bringing in a rookie is more about 2019 than 2018, but it's still very reasonable to think Blake would be challenged by a first or second round rookie. Even if the rookie doesn't get much work with the ones, he'd push Blake to earn another contract in Jacksonville by improving his play or being replaced. I'd normally say "no," but it's #29, so, yes I think it's possible they take a QB there with no intention of starting him his rookie year. Just depends on who falls.
(02-13-2018, 09:03 PM)Adam2012 Wrote:(02-13-2018, 09:42 AM)JUNGLE CAT 2017 Wrote: I've been throwing the name of A. J. McCarron around hoping that Tom will do whatever is necessary to secure his services. A 'modest' deal accepted by McCarron means he is willing to accept the challenge of proving his worth. Just make the contract say something like league-average for starters and make it conditional that if he EARNS the starting quarterback job, the team and his agent will begin to iron out terms that will elevate McCarron to where he needs to be salary-wise for many years to come. Otherwise, it's likely McCarron will go straight to the Patriots where Tom Brady will personally detail him on the art of elite quarterback play. As Tom's role decreases McCarron's role increases. If all works out according to plan, Belichick and Brady pass the torch in a couple of years and the New England Patriots continue years and years of unparalleled elite franchise dynasty status. You worry too much. Just get McCarron in. He's a two time NCAA Championship quarterback. A couple of practices and he'll figure it out. (02-14-2018, 02:17 AM)JUNGLE CAT 2017 Wrote:(02-13-2018, 09:03 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Wow. Are you A.J.'s agent? If not perhaps you should be. McCarron is a spot starter type more so than anyone's real plan at QB. (Apart from Hue Jackson). I would be intrigued to see him play a full season. Just wouldn't be a good risk/option for us right now. We don't have time for that.. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
(02-14-2018, 02:17 AM)JUNGLE CAT 2017 Wrote:(02-13-2018, 09:03 PM)Adam2012 Wrote: Wow. Are you A.J.'s agent? If not perhaps you should be. You sure want a QB that you think is dumb enough to sign that kind of contract, “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
How many NCAA championships did Rodgers, Brady, and Brees win, combined? You know, since that's such an important factor and all.
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We have BB5 under contract for 19m this year. There are 2 things ppl seem to think that can happen next year. He can make another leap and lead us to another AFCSC and playoffs or he can fail to make any more improvement and not be any better. This year we do not have any big contracts we will have to address except Arob and that could be a show me contact coming off the knee. Next year we will have to address some big contracts Ramsey, Yanique. If BB5 makes the improvements most think he will then he will aslo be up for a new contract. And at the going rate of QB contacts that could put us in a bind. For the team as a whole a smart option would be to extend BB5 for 2 - 3 years at 20-22 per year(franchise #s). If he makes strides we already have him and dont have to come up with a 5 yr 29m going rate for QB contract next year. If he does not make the strides the team wants they can release him. Paying a QB next year will be hard with the other contracts coming up.
We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-14-2018, 12:42 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote: We have BB5 under contract for 19m this year. There are 2 things ppl seem to think that can happen next year. He can make another leap and lead us to another AFCSC and playoffs or he can fail to make any more improvement and not be any better. This year we do not have any big contracts we will have to address except Arob and that could be a show me contact coming off the knee. Next year we will have to address some big contracts Ramsey, Yanique. If BB5 makes the improvements most think he will then he will aslo be up for a new contract. And at the going rate of QB contacts that could put us in a bind. For the team as a whole a smart option would be to extend BB5 for 2 - 3 years at 20-22 per year(franchise #s). If he makes strides we already have him and dont have to come up with a 5 yr 29m going rate for QB contract next year. If he does not make the strides the team wants they can release him. Paying a QB next year will be hard with the other contracts coming up.I agree with everything you said. Signing Blake would be a smart option if they truly believe in him. However, he could go the Flacco route and gamble on himself to have a good season and not sign a contract extension. This offseason is a very tricky one.
Blake can stay one more year because apparently he was hurt and had been putting off surgery so now technically his body will be better and we'll see how accurate he can get his throws and such. After this if the OC and HC are still neutering the offensive scheme because of his limitations then he needs to go. I wanted him gone after this past season until I heard about the injury that he chose to play through. Now that it has been rectified, this will be a fair evaluation.
(02-14-2018, 01:23 PM)Setsuna00 Wrote: Blake can stay one more year because apparently he was hurt and had been putting off surgery so now technically his body will be better and we'll see how accurate he can get his throws and such. After this if the OC and HC are still neutering the offensive scheme because of his limitations then he needs to go. I wanted him gone after this past season until I heard about the injury that he chose to play through. Now that it has been rectified, this will be a fair evaluation. Virtually every player is playing through some kind of injury during the season. I'm not buy that as an excuse for Blake. Blake redeemed himself a bit by having less INTs this past season, but overall we could be doing so much more if his passes were simply more accurate. I don't ever see Blake being consistently accurate... just streaky accurate at times. On top of that he requires a good running game to keep him from throwing so much so his arm doesn't go out, and thankfully we were able to give him that much this past season.
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(02-14-2018, 02:31 PM)Jags02 Wrote:(02-14-2018, 01:23 PM)Setsuna00 Wrote: Blake can stay one more year because apparently he was hurt and had been putting off surgery so now technically his body will be better and we'll see how accurate he can get his throws and such. After this if the OC and HC are still neutering the offensive scheme because of his limitations then he needs to go. I wanted him gone after this past season until I heard about the injury that he chose to play through. Now that it has been rectified, this will be a fair evaluation. Oh my God, staaaaaahp with this. This was and always has been a myth. We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today! (02-14-2018, 02:59 PM)JaguarKick Wrote:(02-14-2018, 02:31 PM)Jags02 Wrote: This. ![]() (02-14-2018, 02:31 PM)Jags02 Wrote:(02-14-2018, 01:23 PM)Setsuna00 Wrote: Blake can stay one more year because apparently he was hurt and had been putting off surgery so now technically his body will be better and we'll see how accurate he can get his throws and such. After this if the OC and HC are still neutering the offensive scheme because of his limitations then he needs to go. I wanted him gone after this past season until I heard about the injury that he chose to play through. Now that it has been rectified, this will be a fair evaluation. His accuracy is fine. If the WR and TE caught half the passes they droped he would be at about 68% which would put him second for the entire season behind brees. (02-14-2018, 03:12 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote:hahahahahahahaha(02-14-2018, 02:31 PM)Jags02 Wrote: 68%?! I've heard some hot takes but this one is the hottest. In reality, it's 62.7% and if the team had no drops at all its 65%..... but 68% sounds great! (02-14-2018, 03:12 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote:Funniest comment In a while.(02-14-2018, 02:31 PM)Jags02 Wrote: We show less advertisements to registered users. Accounts are free; join today!
http://gridironnow.com/jaguars-qb-dilemm...=hootsuite
Go find Hays and try to make all the same weak arguments that were tried here and see what he says. (02-14-2018, 04:34 PM)Upper Wrote: http://gridironnow.com/jaguars-qb-dilemm...=hootsuite He did not include the third option of signing him to an extention now at 20-22 mill for 2 0r 3 years which if they are comitted to BB5 is the best option for the salary cap. (02-14-2018, 04:34 PM)Upper Wrote: http://gridironnow.com/jaguars-qb-dilemm...=hootsuite His argument is strictly based upon Cousins vs Bortles. (either will get you in cap trouble in 2020) The argument should be Cousins vs Bortles (for one year) and a then rookie from the 2018 draft to take over in 2019. Also his long term money argument is weak as hell. He just conveniently dimisses Fowler and Myles Jack's second contracts and doesn't even try to do the math should both of them play well enough to warrant being kept. |
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