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2020 Presidental Election


(10-07-2020, 08:24 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(10-07-2020, 08:13 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I had never received a polling call until this year, which I have received multiple.

I make it a point to inform the pollster I am voting Democrat. I also respond to the political text messages from a position of pro-Democrat.

I like to skew results.

So you know there are people who spend ten of thousands of dollars making thousands of phone calls to find out the truth, and you lie to them? Not to protect yourself or anything, not to gain any money or status, but just for your own amusement?
That's pretty low, dude.

What a huge waste of money.
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Pence is crushing it tonight from the few mintues I watched tonight. Harris and Biden have no plans and will not give any details on anything.

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(10-07-2020, 10:00 PM)p_rushing Wrote: Pence is crushing it tonight from the few mintues I watched tonight. Harris and Biden have no plans and will not give any details on anything.

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Twice she's addressed the viewers like children:

"Donald Trump owes $400M is debt. Do you know what debt is? That means you owe someone money."

"Russian troops were offering bounties on American soldiers. Do you know what a bounty is? It's when someone offers money to hurt someone."


I feel like she should be on Sesame Street.
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Good Lord. This is a massacre.
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Let Pence down all the debates going forward please
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(This post was last modified: 10-07-2020, 10:20 PM by homebiscuit.)

The fly on Pence's head is going to be an endless source of jokes tomorrow.
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Wow, Pence really crushed it tonight. I'm honestly surprised at how poorly Kamala did. I guess it's pretty hard when the facts are against you.
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Her continued use of Joe was disrespectful. He’s a former VP of the USA. Thought she got crushed by Pence.
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Soooo...is Kamama going to pack the court?
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(This post was last modified: 10-07-2020, 10:50 PM by homebiscuit.)

Pence framed the final question from the 8th grader in historical terms of ideological discourse being an important part of American unity. Harris treated it like an opportunity for a campaign commercial.

Well, we now know which football team Harris supports - The Packers.
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I see some people are waiting on Don Lemons marching orders...
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"I will not be lectured to".... first of all, nobody was lecturing her, just pointing out the data on her own prosecutorial record. I guess she feels like she is above reproach and can't learn anything, particularly about her own record. Another smug elitist liberal Democrat.
"Remember Red, Hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies."  - Andy Dufresne, The Shawshank Redemption
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Do any of you see the possibility that you thought he was winning because you agreed with what he was saying? (This is a test of your self-awareness.)
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(10-08-2020, 07:12 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Do any of you see the possibility that you thought he was winning because you agreed with what he was saying?   (This is a test of your self-awareness.)

So you agree with packing the supreme court, sucking up to Iran, China, and letting the world continue to take advantage of us when it comes to the climate?
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(10-08-2020, 07:12 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Do any of you see the possibility that you thought he was winning because you agreed with what he was saying?   (This is a test of your self-awareness.)

Do any of you see the possibility that you thought she was winning because you agreed with what she was saying?   (This is a test of your self-awareness.)
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(This post was last modified: 10-08-2020, 07:33 AM by The Real Marty.)

(10-08-2020, 07:23 AM)homebiscuit Wrote:
(10-08-2020, 07:12 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Do any of you see the possibility that you thought he was winning because you agreed with what he was saying?   (This is a test of your self-awareness.)

Do any of you see the possibility that you thought she was winning because you agreed with what she was saying?   (This is a test of your self-awareness.)

No, because I don't think anyone "won" that debate.  They both managed to cite their own talking points, and avoid making mistakes.  

I guess in a way she won, because the debate will not change the trajectory of the race, which is tilting pretty heavily towards Biden.   If her goal was to not make any kind of huge blunder, then she accomplished that.
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(10-08-2020, 07:31 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(10-08-2020, 07:23 AM)homebiscuit Wrote: Do any of you see the possibility that you thought she was winning because you agreed with what she was saying?   (This is a test of your self-awareness.)

No, because I don't think anyone "won" that debate.  They both managed to cite their own talking points, and avoid making mistakes.  

I guess in a way she won, because the debate will not change the trajectory of the race, which is tilting pretty heavily towards Biden.   If her goal was to not make any kind of huge blunder, then she accomplished that.

It was a dance. While both have an obligation to present their points of view, it's never far from their minds that neither wants to go down in flames defending another person.
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I think people filtered the debate through their own biases, and then went to their favorite source to confirm their belief that their candidate won. I think a lot of people on this message board either don't have the self-awareness to understand that, or they don't want to admit it.
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(10-08-2020, 07:45 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: I think people filtered the debate through their own biases, and then went to their favorite source to confirm their belief that their candidate won.   I think a lot of people on this message board either don't have the self-awareness to understand that, or they don't want to admit it.

I think people filtered the debate through the fact both of these people are VP's for the oldest candidates in history and could become our eventual president.

Looking at it through that lens, last night becomes more clear to most people.
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I turned the debate off after about 30 minutes. Pence is robotic. It was hard for me to watch him talk. The few times they got into the weeds, I thought Pence did an adequate job of stating the facts. Harris was more relatable, but empty. I don't really see what they are running on other than they aren't Trump. When asked specifics, she dodged. It amazes me how easily the American people are gaslit, though.

Trump's messaging on covid needs to improve. Democrats need to be called out more on the economy.
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