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Poll: Which of the following best describes your outlook on Travon Walker ?
This poll is closed.
He's not an edge rusher. Put 20 pounds on him and move him inside.
8.33%
10 8.33%
Still has work to do as a pass rusher but I see improvement. Let's see how it goes. Inside stunts are enough to get him matched against guards.
30.83%
37 30.83%
He's going to be a beast. I trust the process.
25.83%
31 25.83%
Bust
22.50%
27 22.50%
I wish we'd just switch to a 4-3, leave him outside and put his hand in the ground.
6.67%
8 6.67%
Blank #2
2.50%
3 2.50%
corn
3.33%
4 3.33%
Total 120 vote(s) 100%
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Travon Walker: 2nd Year Thoughts Etc (merged)


He needs to be moved to Special Teams if we continue to use the brilliant strategy of kicking off short, even though we have a kicker who is supposed to have one of the strongest legs in the NFL.

I say we continue to do what we do but offset idiotic decisions with dumber decisions to counter stupid decisions.
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Stupid [BLEEP] Baalke, only that clown could screw up the first overall pick. Travon is a bust, a bull rushing bust…
"If you always do what you've always done, You'll always get what you always got"
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(This post was last modified: 09-25-2023, 06:20 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 1 time in total.)

Hutch is tied for first in the league in pressures with TJ Watt and Maxx Crosby. One of the most bone headed picks the Jags have ever made in the history of the franchise. Whoever wanted Walker over Hutch should be fired after this year and Khan knows who it was.

Still insane they chose Walker over Hutch who was a crazy athlete. The chosing Walker over Hutch because Walker was just a little bit better of an athlete is some of the dumbest [BLEEP] ive ever heard being both were great athlets and top 20 All time at the position since 1987. Hutch had a better vert, 3 cone, and shuttle so its even arguable if Walker was the better athlete. We could of gotten an insane athlete that was already a great pass rusher with a DPOY type ceiling

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/aidan-hutchinson/82330

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/travon-walker/98940


https://x.com/MathBomb/status/1504824947239268366?s=20
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(09-25-2023, 06:12 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Hutch is tied for first in the league in pressures with TJ Watt and Maxx Crosby.  One of the most bone headed picks the Jags have ever made in the history of the franchise.  Whoever wanted Walker over Hutch should be fired after this year and Khan knows who it was.

Still insane they chose Walker over Hutch who was a crazy athlete.  The chosing Walker over Hutch because Walker was just a little bit better of an athlete is some of the dumbest [BLEEP] ive ever heard being both were great athlets and top 20 All time at the position since 1987.  Hutch had a better vert, 3 cone, and shuttle so its even arguable if Walker was the better athlete.  We could of gotten an insane athlete that was already a great pass rusher with a DPOY type ceiling

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/aidan-hutchinson/82330

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/travon-walker/98940


https://x.com/MathBomb/status/1504824947239268366?s=20

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"Treyvon Wallet is elite run defender and better overall than Aidan Hutchinson" 11/11/23
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(09-25-2023, 07:47 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote:
(09-25-2023, 06:12 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Hutch is tied for first in the league in pressures with TJ Watt and Maxx Crosby.  One of the most bone headed picks the Jags have ever made in the history of the franchise.  Whoever wanted Walker over Hutch should be fired after this year and Khan knows who it was.

Still insane they chose Walker over Hutch who was a crazy athlete.  The chosing Walker over Hutch because Walker was just a little bit better of an athlete is some of the dumbest [BLEEP] ive ever heard being both were great athlets and top 20 All time at the position since 1987.  Hutch had a better vert, 3 cone, and shuttle so its even arguable if Walker was the better athlete.  We could of gotten an insane athlete that was already a great pass rusher with a DPOY type ceiling

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/aidan-hutchinson/82330

https://www.pff.com/nfl/players/travon-walker/98940


https://x.com/MathBomb/status/1504824947239268366?s=20

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I think 31 of the 32 teams would of drafted Hutch at one.  The bad thing is, our franchise is the one franchise that would of taken Walker and we picked at one
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(09-24-2023, 04:59 PM)rfc17 Wrote: I still stand by everything I said a couple weeks ago.  With two full offseasons in an NFL camp, it is mind blowing to me that he hasn't been able to learn just one pass move which he can consistently use multiple times in a game.  Doesn't have to beat the guy every time but will occasionally create havoc for the quarterback.  I still just don't see how it is that difficult.  I suppose at some point you have to come to the conclusion that he is just incapable of doing so.

Still early.  Can't write him off yet.  But it is very surprising and disappointing that we have seen so little.

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/stat...NJMlg&s=19

So the less athletic guy has figured out how to develop additional pass rush techniques. Will continue to stand by what I said. For as physically gifted as Walker is its crazy he hasn't developed anything yet. It isn't that hard.


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We all wanted Hutch. Baalke didn’t listen to the crowd, and here we are again. It’s crazy how this board literally can draft better than our paid staff.
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I mean

He looks better than chaisson lol
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(09-26-2023, 03:58 PM)rfc17 Wrote:
(09-24-2023, 04:59 PM)rfc17 Wrote: I still stand by everything I said a couple weeks ago.  With two full offseasons in an NFL camp, it is mind blowing to me that he hasn't been able to learn just one pass move which he can consistently use multiple times in a game.  Doesn't have to beat the guy every time but will occasionally create havoc for the quarterback.  I still just don't see how it is that difficult.  I suppose at some point you have to come to the conclusion that he is just incapable of doing so.

Still early.  Can't write him off yet.  But it is very surprising and disappointing that we have seen so little.

https://twitter.com/LedyardNFLDraft/stat...NJMlg&s=19

So the less athletic guy has figured out how to develop additional pass rush techniques. Will continue to stand by what I said. For as physically gifted as Walker is its crazy he hasn't developed anything yet. It isn't that hard.

JEEZ...

Maybe I'm giving Travon too much credit.  I don't think I've ever seen Travon attack a lineman like this.  This game was against Atlanta.

Let's see if they move Travon around and let's see if Travon can get to the QB.  I guess this will be one of those test where we can see after 1 year the development of both prospects.  I'm excited to look at it.  Though I have a feeling I'm going to be dissapointed.
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Baalke, the smartest man in the room
Your beliefs become your thoughts,
Your thoughts become your words,
Your words become your actions,
Your actions become your habits,
Your habits become your values,
Your values become your destiny.
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(09-26-2023, 04:18 PM)Newton Wrote: We all wanted Hutch. Baalke didn’t listen to the crowd, and here we are again. It’s crazy how this board literally can draft better than our paid staff.

When you have an idiot of an owner like Khan you get turds like Baalke.
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I hope Walker gets things going. The anger is getting out of hand here

Sheesh
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Walker is on the verge of being the biggest bust in franchise history. Number 1 overall pick and he has 4.5 sacks in 20 games.

Derrick Harvey had 3.5 sacks through 20 games.

Walker’s rookie season: 3.5 sacks
Harvey’s rookie season: 3.5 sacks
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(This post was last modified: 09-27-2023, 07:12 PM by flgatorsandjags. Edited 2 times in total.)

Was drafted at the end of the first. Could of had him as well. Hutch has more pressures than Myles Garrett and Michah Parsons

https://x.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/17063...07584?s=20
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(09-27-2023, 07:11 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Was drafted at the end of the first. Could of had him as well. Hutch has more pressures than Myles Garrett and Michah Parsons

https://x.com/KCChiefs_Matt/status/17063...07584?s=20
Half his pressures came against the Bears and he has Chris Jones opposite of him.

It's a lot easier to rush a struggling offense when you're up 31 to 0 at half time. [BLEEP] is wild.

With that said? We clearly [BLEEP] up and fumbled the bag addressing the defensive line and offensive line.

It's highly unlikely much will change with what we have on the roster and that's with Josh Allen more than likely leaving in the off season.

Unless things gradually begin to change in these areas? I think it's clear one change must take place in the off season.

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The cheifs game last year as a turning point for Trevor

Maybe this game against falcons is a turning point for walker
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(This post was last modified: 09-28-2023, 01:09 AM by Jag88. Edited 2 times in total.)

(09-27-2023, 06:33 AM)JagFanatic24 Wrote: Walker is on the verge of being the biggest bust in franchise history. Number 1 overall pick and he has 4.5 sacks in 20 games.

Derrick Harvey had 3.5 sacks through 20 games.

Walker’s rookie season: 3.5 sacks
Harvey’s rookie season: 3.5 sacks

So many to pick from, when it comes to first round disappointments. More recently, chaisson and Fowler. The list is deep. However it’s way too early on Walker. It’s ok to be concerned, but let’s not go overboard. YET
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(09-26-2023, 10:36 PM)JaG4LyFe Wrote: Baalke, the smartest man in the room

Yeah there's a healthy does of Gene Smithism going on there, I would say I don't believe he would draft a punter in the 3rd round but I wonder.
I'm condescending. That means I talk down to you.
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(09-24-2023, 04:57 PM)Jaguar Warrior Wrote: Worthless, a bust, the worst starting OLB in the league and a historically bad draft pick. Trade him for a ham sandwich and move on.

True test will be whether or not he's playing ST next season when Chiasson is gone
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