Do you guys know how cold it gets up there? No human in their right mind willingly moves there, and tackling NFL players in the same emergency frigid conditions seems unpleasant as well. Of course no one wants to go to that cess pool. The only reason they go to Detroit (sorry D6) is because they're afforded the ability to play inside where they might not die from the weather.

Not everyone is a [BLEEP] like John Elway

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I think the browns end up with a free agent QB like tyrod and take Garrett and a DB with those two picks.

Their oline really just needs a center, thats the big gaping hole but otherwise it is serviceable. Their good for weapons between Pryor/Coleman/Barnidge/Crowell/Duke


their defensive line would be comprised of Garrett, Nassib, Shelton, and Ogbah(idk whos playing 3t in a base 4-3)


Kirksey at inside linebacker

demario davis at wlb

jamie collins at slb


that just leaves their secondary. Joe Haden fell off pretty hard but hes not the worst thing ever. They need another outside corner and a complete reset of the safety position.


I know what everyone says its the browns theyll

mess up yaya hilarious original joke. QB obviously a large hump for anyone but otherwise everything else is within arms reach of being fixable.

 

 

The Browns RT situation is about as bad, if not worse than the Center position. They were getting pressured consistently off that corner all season. At minimum, they need a RT and a Center. They are solid with Thomas and Bitonio and they have gotten serviceable play from the other OG spot, but like us, they have been really bad at two positions on the O-Line. I agree that they desperately need a CB as well. This is a deep CB class and I think they'll find a good one in round 2. Currently, I have them taking Pocic and Tre'davious White. Pocic has played Center and RT, while White was one of the better lockdown corners in the nation and a First Team All-SEC selection. 

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I don't think Hue Jackson takes a QB at all in RD1 or RD2. I think he's comfortable with Cody Kessler. Cody didn't have that bad of a season for a rookie. In fact, he was pretty damn efficient in the nine games he played in. He completed 65.6% of his passes. He had 6 TD's compared to 2 INT's thrown as well. They invested a 3RD RD pick in him last year. I think they see him as their future for the time being. 

 

As far as the direction they'll take with their draft choices? It's pretty obvious they'll be focusing on the offensive line and defensive line. They surrendered 66 sacks last season. That's 4 sacks allowed per game. The fact that they were only blown out 7 times this past season despite a revolving door at the QB position due to injuries is remarkable in it's own right. 

 

On the defensive side they only mustered 26 sacks on the season last year with the leading pass rusher having just 6 in Ogbah off the edge. If I had to guess which direction Cleveland goes in or who they are eyeing it would go as follows through the first four rounds:

 

RD1 / P1: Myles Garret - DE

RD1 / P12: Reuben Foster - LB

RD2 / P33: Demarcus Walker - DE

RD2 / P52: Dion Dawkins - G / T

RD3 / P65: Jon Toth - C

RD4 / P97: Jordan Morgan - G

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"What do I know of cultured ways, the gilt, the craft and the lie? I, who was born in a naked land and bred in the open sky. The subtle tongue, the sophist guile, they fail when the broadswords sing; Rush in and die, dogs - I was a man before I was a king."

Browns suck and I don't see that changing.

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Browns suck and I don't see that changing.[/quote

That's what the vast majority of Americans say about the Jaguars as well.

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Browns suck and I don't see that changing.[/quote

That's what the vast majority of Americans say about the Jaguars as well.[/quote]


And based on the Jaguars track record of recently, they would be justified in saying so.

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I don't think Hue Jackson takes a QB at all in RD1 or RD2. I think he's comfortable with Cody Kessler. Cody didn't have that bad of a season for a rookie. In fact, he was pretty damn efficient in the nine games he played in. He completed 65.6% of his passes. He had 6 TD's compared to 2 INT's thrown as well. They invested a 3RD RD pick in him last year. I think they see him as their future for the time being.


As far as the direction they'll take with their draft choices? It's pretty obvious they'll be focusing on the offensive line and defensive line. They surrendered 66 sacks last season. That's 4 sacks allowed per game. The fact that they were only blown out 7 times this past season despite a revolving door at the QB position due to injuries is remarkable in it's own right.


On the defensive side they only mustered 26 sacks on the season last year with the leading pass rusher having just 6 in Ogbah off the edge. If I had to guess which direction Cleveland goes in or who they are eyeing it would go as follows through the first four rounds:


RD1 / P1: Myles Garret - DE

RD1 / P12: Reuben Foster - LB

RD2 / P33: Demarcus Walker - DE

RD2 / P52: Dion Dawkins - G / T

RD3 / P65: Jon Toth - C

RD4 / P97: Jordan Morgan - G

I think they like christian kirksey too much inside to take foster. Foster is definitely much better but kirksey is a solid player and i think for value purposes theyre better served going elsewhere at 12. The only issue with those picks is the browns basically need a whole new secondary. Id bet at least two of their first four picks go to the secondary.

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Browns suck and I don't see that changing.[/quote
That's what the vast majority of Americans say about the Jaguars as well.

 

Well, so far they have been right for way to long.

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I survived the Gus Bradley Error.

Who cares about the Browns?? Smh come onnn man!

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I don't think Hue Jackson takes a QB at all in RD1 or RD2. I think he's comfortable with Cody Kessler. Cody didn't have that bad of a season for a rookie. In fact, he was pretty damn efficient in the nine games he played in. He completed 65.6% of his passes. He had 6 TD's compared to 2 INT's thrown as well. They invested a 3RD RD pick in him last year. I think they see him as their future for the time being. 

 

As far as the direction they'll take with their draft choices? It's pretty obvious they'll be focusing on the offensive line and defensive line. They surrendered 66 sacks last season. That's 4 sacks allowed per game. The fact that they were only blown out 7 times this past season despite a revolving door at the QB position due to injuries is remarkable in it's own right. 

 

On the defensive side they only mustered 26 sacks on the season last year with the leading pass rusher having just 6 in Ogbah off the edge. If I had to guess which direction Cleveland goes in or who they are eyeing it would go as follows through the first four rounds:

 

RD1 / P1: Myles Garret - DE

RD1 / P12: Reuben Foster - LB

RD2 / P33: Demarcus Walker - DE

RD2 / P52: Dion Dawkins - G / T

RD3 / P65: Jon Toth - C

RD4 / P97: Jordan Morgan - G

 

 

 

From what I understand, the Browns have no 3rd or 4th round picks. I believe New England has their 3rd round pick and Philly has their 4th round selection. I think they have two picks in round 5, which is their own and they have the Pats' as well.

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The Collins trade is for either a 3rd-round comp pick(if Cleveland gets one) or a 4th-round pick. Their original 3rd-round pick remains untouched.

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The Collins trade is for either a 3rd-round comp pick(if Cleveland gets one) or a 4th-round pick. Their original 3rd-round pick remains untouched.

 

 

Thanks for letting me know. I had my mock all screwed up. I'm gonna fix it. 

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Do you guys know how cold it gets up there? No human in their right mind willingly moves there, and tackling NFL players in the same emergency frigid conditions seems unpleasant as well. Of course no one wants to go to that cess pool. The only reason they go to Detroit (sorry D6) is because they're afforded the ability to play inside where they might not die from the weather.

 

  Treestone Ice,  I think it comes down to the winning culture factor more than anything.  Before the Brett Favre trade to the Packers in 1992 and Reggie White signing with the Packers as an UFA in 1993,  practically no one wanted to play in Green Bay for a generation.  Some players figuratively would rather have played in Siberia.  That all changed when they Packers became a consistent winner.  

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You guys are bad at quoting

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IT WAS ALWAYS THE JAGS

As long as the Browns pass on chances to pick elite players by trading down, I will have no faith in their rebuilding plan.

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Why is it that every time I read the Thread title, Zoolander's Charity Project for Children pops into my head?

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I'm trying to make myself more informed and less opinionated.

Stop saying whatever stupid thing you're talking about and pay attention to all the interesting things I have to say!

Who cares about the Browns?? Smh come onnn man!

 

Ravens haters, that's who. I always want Baltimore to be last in the division.

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