Do some research on how this team has faired on picking pass rushers. Between Miller/Marks/Clemons/Branch/Bryant.. we should have enough pass rushing talent on this roster to afford to take Gurley in the middle of the 1st. Don't you realize how much it would open the passing if we had even a halfway decent running game?


The fact we can even get any passing yards is a testament to the passing game at this point. This offense hasn't been legit balanced since 2007. And before that, what 2001? So what 1 year in like 13-14?


Edit: Actually, find me the last time a team picked a CB/S in the 1st round and they ended up being something useful in oh lets say the first 2 years.

Marks was a great find, but I'm meh on the other guys. Clemons is a nice stopgap, but at 32, his best years are likely behind him especially for when this team is likely to compete. Branch is nice, but isn't someone who should be counted on to be the guy. Hopefully he proves me wrong this year. We have nice depth, but no premier guy on the edge you need vs the top QBs. If Bortles is the guy we think he is, the passing game will be fine regardless.


Eric Reid

Patrick Peterson

Stephon Gilmore

Eric Berry

Joe Haden

Earl Thomas


Lots of busts otherwise, but that's the draft.


Looking at that reminded me that Quinn, Watt, and Kerrigan were taken right after we chose Gabbert. Oof.

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Marks was a great find, but I'm meh on the other guys. Clemons is a nice stopgap, but at 32, his best years are likely behind him especially for when this team is likely to compete. Branch is nice, but isn't someone who should be counted on to be the guy. Hopefully he proves me wrong this year. We have nice depth, but no premier guy on the edge you need vs the top QBs. If Bortles is the guy we think he is, the passing game will be fine regardless.


Eric Reid

Patrick Peterson

Stephon Gilmore

Eric Berry

Joe Haden

Earl Thomas


Lots of busts otherwise, but that's the draft.


Looking at that reminded me that Quinn, Watt, and Kerrigan were taken right after we chose Gabbert. Oof.

 

Yeah most of them are good, but there are an equal amount that were in the first round that the jury is still out on... I personally think Berry / Gilmore are unproven. 

 

Berry has been to 3 pro bowls, but seriously, how often do you hear his name? Rarely.

 

There are more CB's S's taken in the first round period than RB's in the past 5 years. Most of the RB's that have been taken haven't amounted to much of anything.

 

I still think Todd Gurley will break that. 

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If the jaguars wind up with the first pick it will likely be a trade out scenario.


A lot of the picks need to be spent on the line. Center is top priority. Guard. Right tackle.


Linder and joeckel can't really be judged yet.


Unless there is a great value high talent safety or lineman somewhere mixed in there that they didn't expect to be available

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Coughlin when asked if winning will be a focus: "What the hell else is there? This is nice and dandy, but winning is what all this is about."

Gurley may end up being one of those special backs, but I still don't think he is worth any first round pick, even if you trade down. Who is the last back you can legitimately said was the big reason his team won the SB? Rice and Marshawn are the biggest names whose team has won it recently, but Flacco and the SEA defense were the big reasons why they won it all, but won't deny Lynch was a beast.


The Packers did a similar thing with drafting Lacy, probably the best RB to be paired with a top tier QB I can remember lately. But that teams fate will always be determined on how Rodgers and that defense play with Lacy a distant third. Just how the league is now. All about the QBs. Especially with how they are calling penalties on DBs.


There seems to be more and more gems you can find in mid-late rounds and UDFA. A lot of people here seemed to want to take Tre Mason in the 2nd round last year. Rams for some reason go for him in the 3rd after having 5th rounder Zac Stacy breakout last year. Now he is behind him and UDFA Benny Cunningham on the depth chart. It's early, but the Browns look like they found a nice duo of rookies with a 3rd round pick and a UDFA after wasting money on Ben Tate.


You're right, Gurley with the young talent on this offense would be fun as hell to watch but he wouldn't make us a playoff contender like a possible premier pass rusher or secondary player would.

 

Confirmation bias.

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If the jaguars wind up with the first pick it will likely be a trade out scenario.


A lot of the picks need to be spent on the line. Center is top priority. Guard. Right tackle.


Linder and joeckel can't really be judged yet.


Unless there is a great value high talent safety or lineman somewhere mixed in there that they didn't expect to be available

OL must be fixed in free agency. Are you willing to put up with another one of these type years of offensive OL play. Not me! The read option/spread is used so much in college football it seems it is hard to get a real judge on the OL. I say get a playmaker DE,FS,RB. Trading down would be the ideal thing to do. Everyone will be wanting Winston who we do not need.

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3) Gurley is probably the first RB in awhile that deserves looks at the top 5. Sorry if you don't smell what the NCAA is cooking.  

 And in 1997, Curtis Enis was the best RB in a while, and was taken in the top 5 of the 1998 draft. Tom Coughlin desperately tried to trade up with Chicago in that draft  to take Enis. Chicago didn't bite, and took him. Sadly, or so it seemed to Coughlin at the time,  the Jags had to take a guy named Fred Taylor with the 9th pick in that draft.

 

History shows that nothing is as certain as we think it is.

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 And in 1997, Curtis Enis was the best RB in a while, and was taken in the top 5 of the 1998 draft. Tom Coughlin desperately tried to trade up with Chicago in that draft  to take Enis. Chicago didn't bite, and took him. Sadly, or so it seemed to Coughlin at the time,  the Jags had to take a guy named Fred Taylor with the 9th pick in that draft.

 

History shows that nothing is as certain as we think it is.

Oh my the good ole days!

Thanks!

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I'd rather draft a Duke Johnson or Kenyan Drake if they declared than waste a 1st on Gurley.

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If the Jags get the #1 pick and Winston or Mariota are as advertised they will be able to command a king's ransom.

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THERE IS A SKELETON INSIDE OF YOU.

 

RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT A JOKE.

Do some research on how this team has faired on picking pass rushers. Between Miller/Marks/Clemons/Branch/Bryant.. we should have enough pass rushing talent on this roster to afford to take Gurley in the middle of the 1st. Don't you realize how much it would open the passing if we had even a halfway decent running game? 

 

The fact we can even get any passing yards is a testament to the passing game at this point. This offense hasn't been legit balanced since 2007. And before that, what 2001? So what 1 year in like 13-14? 

 

Edit: Actually, find me the last time a team picked a CB/S in the 1st round and they ended up being something useful in oh lets say the first 2 years. 

The Jags need to trade back and get an offensive lineman, free safety and receiving tight end. 

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If the Jags get the #1 pick and Winston or Mariota are as advertised they will be able to command a king's ransom.

This, we could do with only 1 declaring though that would really up the price, supply and demand and all that.

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If the Jags get the #1 pick and Winston or Mariota are as advertised they will be able to command a king's ransom.

This.  They would take a trade back in a heartbeat at this point.  Otherwise I think we may have to go with Gregory if we are in that scenario.


FWIW, I doubt we pick this high.  If we suck this bad mid-season, it's going to be Bortles time and I think he gets us out of the top 3/4 picks.

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