Yea lets trade our only proven good receiver to another team for a non-premium position 3 weeks into the preseason.  Great idea.

 

Would people stop with this "only proven WR" crap? 

 

Shorts has been absent all preseason and we haven't missed a beat, nor will we going forward without him with the SIX other capable WR on the roster. 

 

The OL is a trainwreck and adding some veteran leadership and proven top ability there with Boone would be a great swap in exchange for a totally disposable WR such as Shorts....a WR whose due big cash soon, too. 

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Would people stop with this "only proven WR" crap? 

 

 

But, dude, he is the only proven WR on the roster.  He has over 120 catches in real NFL games. Mike Brown has 32.  After that.....  it's a whole lot of inexperience.   You can say Hurns makes him expendable, but then there's no real depth until Sanders and Robinson are ready. 

 

You can't say he's not the only proven WR, cause he really is. 

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Would people stop with this "only proven WR" crap? 

 

Shorts has been absent all preseason and we haven't missed a beat, nor will we going forward without him with the SIX other capable WR on the roster. 

 

The OL is a trainwreck and adding some veteran leadership and proven top ability there with Boone would be a great swap in exchange for a totally disposable WR such as Shorts....a WR whose due big cash soon, too. 

 

Yes, we should ignore the fact that he's the only veteran receiver with any success on this roster.  We should focus on the fact that the receivers "haven't missed a beat" going up against generic defenses.  Because, if we looked at this objectively, we'd think your obsession with trading Shorts is completely idiotic.  Oh wait....

 

Apparently, there's no way to fix the offensive line other than to trade for an overpriced Guard, giving up our only legitimate receiver. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

But, dude, he is the only proven WR on the roster.  He has over 120 catches in real NFL games. Mike Brown has 32.  After that.....  it's a whole lot of inexperience.   You can say Hurns makes him expendable, but then there's no real depth until Sanders and Robinson are ready. 

 

You can't say he's not the only proven WR, cause he really is. 

 

Well the notion is overrated. Especially in our case. 

 

This isn't a playoff team (in 2014) anyway, and the WR that would still be here have been getting reps with Bortles all this time anyway. Theres probably more chemistry between Bortles and those WR than Bortles and Shorts. 

 

He's expendable. Totally. 

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But, dude, he is the only proven WR on the roster.  He has over 120 catches in real NFL games. Mike Brown has 32.  After that.....  it's a whole lot of inexperience.   You can say Hurns makes him expendable, but then there's no real depth until Sanders and Robinson are ready. 

 

You can't say he's not the only proven WR, cause he really is. 

But they haven't needed him in the preseason. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Well the notion is overrated. Especially in our case. 

 

This isn't a playoff team anyway, and the WR that would still be here have been getting reps with Bortles all this time anyway. Theres probably more chemistry between Bortles and those WR than Bortles and Shorts. 

 

He's expendable. Totally. 

Yes, I'm sure Bortles couldn't possibly develop a rapport with Shorts.  That's impossible to fathom....if you're pushing a pathetic agenda. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Yes, I'm sure Bortles couldn't possibly develop a rapport with Shorts.  That's impossible to fathom....if you're pushing a pathetic agenda. 

 

Bortles has developed a rapport with the other WR's already....more so than with the only veteran WR.....

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He's expendable. Totally. 

When Robinson and Sanders are available -- and if Hurns continues to show up when it counts.  Then, yes, he's deal-able.  I'd wait to see those things happen before doing anything beyond considering it, personally. 

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When Robinson and Sanders are available -- and if Hurns continues to show up when it counts.  Then, yes, he's deal-able.  I'd wait to see those things happen before doing anything beyond considering it, personally. 

I'm not even sure if he's deal-able at that point.  History tells us that rookie receivers are more likely to hit a wall than to become integral figures in the offensive scheme.  There's plenty of stats to back up the fact that rookies will simply struggle.  I want a veteran who has actually been productive on the field leading this unit.  From what the other receivers are saying, so do they. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

When Robinson and Sanders are available -- and if Hurns continues to show up when it counts.  Then, yes, he's deal-able.  I'd wait to see those things happen before doing anything beyond considering it, personally. 

 

Thats a fair point....but when they are?....its sayanara time for CS3. 

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Bortles has developed a rapport with the other WR's already....more so than with the only veteran WR.....

Vs. very little in the way of defensive game planning.  I know you've got an agenda you desperately need to push here to get that attention you crave, but all that rapport goes right out the window once defenses start game planning. 

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

I'm not even sure if he's deal-able at that point.  History tells us that rookie receivers are more likely to hit a wall than to become integral figures in the offensive scheme.  There's plenty of stats to back up the fact that rookies will simply struggle.  I want a veteran who has actually been productive on the field leading this unit.  From what the other receivers are saying, so do they. 

 

Yes because when the rookie WR "hit the wall" we'll have Shorts to pick up the slack in December....you know December which he never usually reaches due to injuries. 

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I want a veteran who has actually been productive on the field leading this unit.  From what the other receivers are saying, so do they. 

Yes, and I fully expect that to happen. I was simply outlining what realistically would have to transpire in order for Caldwell to consider such a move.

 

(one of those conditions was Hurns continuing to play beyond that rookie-wall when the games count  -- which, as you said, isn't common)

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Vs. very little in the way of defensive game planning.  I know you've got an agenda you desperately need to push here to get that attention you crave, but all that rapport goes right out the window once defenses start game planning. 

 

LOL, so just because they will be game planned for means that they will be crap? They can also game plan for Shorts too...

 

You're desperately trying to make an argument to keep Shorts at all costs and you're simply flailing. 

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Personally, I don't think Shorts is that great.  I think he'd be the 3rd WR on about half of the teams in the league.   Plus, he's prone to concussions (not to mention these incessant calf injuries), and as we all know, the more concussions a player has, the easier it is to get the next one, and eventually, they are out of the league. 

 

I think we could go forward with Hurns, Robinson, Lee, Mike Brown, and Ace Sanders or Kerry Taylor.   If trading Shorts had the side effect of fixing the offensive line, I would do it. 

 

With the usual caveat that I trust Dave and Gus to do the right thing, and if they want to keep Shorts, obviously I would support that. 

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Picking up Boone in a trade, allowing Linder to slide to C, would upgrade 2 positions.  Protection of a young QB and opening inside running lanes for an inside runner (Gerhart), while having the largest cap room in the league, would be beneficial and do'able.  I tend to agree with TMD, in that Shorts is expendable.  Cecil is an average NFL receiver, in a contract year looking to be paid also.  Robinson and Lee, along with the emergence of Hurns, will develop under the teaching of Sullivan.   

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Picking up Boone in a trade, allowing Linder to slide to C, would upgrade 2 positions.  Protection of a young QB and opening inside running lanes for an inside runner (Gerhart), while having the largest cap room in the league, would be beneficial and do'able.  I tend to agree with TMD, in that Shorts is expendable.  Cecil is an average NFL receiver, in a contract year looking to be paid also.  Robinson and Lee, along with the emergence of Hurns, will develop under the teaching of Sullivan.   

 

:thumbsup: 

 

and totally agree with the OL point. 

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 why not make this trade now to protect bortles next year.  wont matter if shorts is playing this year.  we are already tanking this year with henne anyway.  might as well go all in and mortgage this year off to be better next year.  plus hurns and lee and robinson will all have a year of experience, by the time we are trying to win anyway.

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I wouldn't trade Shorts for Boone but I would love to trade for Boone. Something like a 4th rounder would be awesome. I doubt the 49ers plan on trading him anyway.

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Personally, I don't think Shorts is that great.  I think he'd be the 3rd WR on about half of the teams in the league.   Plus, he's prone to concussions (not to mention these incessant calf injuries), and as we all know, the more concussions a player has, the easier it is to get the next one, and eventually, they are out of the league. 

 

I think we could go forward with Hurns, Robinson, Lee, Mike Brown, and Ace Sanders or Kerry Taylor.   If trading Shorts had the side effect of fixing the offensive line, I would do it. 

Bingo. 

 

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