The #1 team is as desperate for a quarterback as we are. Because the Falcons are most likely to pick Clowney, we don't need to trade with them. Just let Clowney go first and pick Bridgewater at #2.

 

Did you even read the post you quoted?

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I'm hoping and praying that you're asking me this simply because it's three AM in the morning and you're too tired to function.

 

JaguarsWoman made a blanket statement that one should never trade up in the draft using multiple firsts. By listing Teddy, Luck, and THEN Peyton Manning in the post before that, it should be obvious that I'm using this year's example and then jumping to two of the best prospects ever to see if she would maintain that logic when presented with the most tantalizing of options. This is simple stuff.

 

I've been pretty adamant in my belief that Bridgewater is only behind Luck and Manning as the best QB prospect in the past 15 years, though. That's not very controversial.

 

Trading away our 2015 first round pick would be fine if we were loaded with talent and just needed a quarterback, instead of a team that needs almost everything starting with the quarterback. You have to take your team's situation into account and look at the big picture. What I am seeing here is a narrow-minded view that a team instantly goes from worst to best if the first overall pick is a quarterback. There is no truth to that at all.

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I can't wait until everyone stops saying Andrew luck. The guy is a bum. He's not Manning and he never will be. Quote me on this for later too.

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Trading away our 2015 first round pick would be fine if we were loaded with talent and just needed a quarterback, instead of a team that needs almost everything starting with the quarterback. You have to take your team's situation into account and look at the big picture. What I am seeing here is a narrow-minded view that a team instantly goes from worst to best if the first overall pick is a quarterback. There is no truth to that at all.

 

What I'm seeing here is an incredibly narrow-minded view that I (or anyone else who would part with that 2015 first-rounder for Peyton Manning) am thinking solely about next year and not the next 15 when solidifying the franchise at the most important position in all of sports.

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Stay put or trade down. Trading up with so many holes and lack of depth is a bad idea

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Haterade is right, it's as simple as that. Both JW and Bluegrass make good points, assuming we even have the #2  and also by using a little 20/20 hindsight on Luck and Manning. What if you trade up and get a Ryan Leaf?

 

I'm not impressed by RGIII. They gave up all those picks for him? The ACL has slowed him (and Mike Shanahan is 10 years beyond his prime) and it's only a matter of time before he is leveled again and the career virtually ends.

 

There's no sense in being in rebuilding mode and trading picks to move up, IMO. Imagine doing that and drafting the next Ryan Leaf, OMG.

 

Don't you love what DC/Gus are doing? The secondary looks rebuilt, the bottom of the roster has been solidified, aging veterans discarded, other pieces are in place (Joeckel, Sanders, et al), useful FA's (Marks, W. Blackmon) added, this year the QB and OL are coming along with a couple more FA's.

 

Trade up? Nah. Trade down if anything. Maybe sucker Washington again.

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What I'm seeing here is an incredibly narrow-minded view that I (or anyone else who would part with that 2015 first-rounder for Peyton Manning) am thinking solely about next year and not the next 15 when solidifying the franchise at the most important position in all of sports.

 

If you want to make your franchise better for any amount of time, you need to KEEP ALL OF YOUR DRAFT PICKS. The Redskins showed us how dangerous it is to trade your most valuable picks just to get one quarterback.

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The Franchise QB. Washington gave up three firsts. Indianapolis had one of their worst seasons ever.

 

What is the guy worth? If we have the second pick, what are you willing to trade to move up for Teddy?

If you mean Teddy Bridgewater, forget it. We keep hearing what a franchise quarterback he is, but when one looks at his season, meh.

 

His college play doesn't seem to translate into the pro game.

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First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win. - Mahatma Gandhi

 

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If you want to make your franchise better for any amount of time, you need to KEEP ALL OF YOUR DRAFT PICKS. The Redskins showed us how dangerous it is to trade your most valuable picks just to get one quarterback.

 

Yeah, the Giants sure regret trading up for Eli Manning. And the Broncos would totally take back that haul they sent off for John Elway, I'm sure. There's four rings between those guys the last I checked.

 

All the Redskins showed is that it sucks to have your franchise QB tear his ACL while you mismanaged your team's cap room. Washington was screwed long before that trade, and it was considered a grand slam for the Skins at this time last year.

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Yeah, the Giants sure regret trading up for Eli Manning. And the Broncos would totally take back that haul they sent off for John Elway, I'm sure. There's four rings between those guys the last I checked.

 

All the Redskins showed is that it sucks to have your franchise QB tear his ACL while you mismanaged your team's cap room. Washington was screwed long before that trade, and it was considered a grand slam for the Skins at this time last year.

 

The Giants actually drafted Philip Rivers, then traded him to the Chargers for Eli Manning. They never traded up to get a franchise quarterback; they only traded players because Eli refused to be a Charger.

 

Do I have to say it again? The Redskins had plenty of talent and good coaches on offense, so they could afford to give up picks for a franchise quarterback. We have to keep all of our picks because we need many things, starting with the quarterback. When there is so little talent on your team you don't trade the farm for the quarterback.

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I can't wait until everyone stops saying Andrew luck. The guy is a bum. He's not Manning and he never will be. Quote me on this for later too.

Lawlz

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The Giants actually drafted Philip Rivers, then traded him to the Chargers for Eli Manning. They never traded up to get a franchise quarterback; they only traded players because Eli refused to be a Charger.

 

Do I have to say it again? The Redskins had plenty of talent and good coaches on offense, so they could afford to give up picks for a franchise quarterback. We have to keep all of our picks because we need many things, starting with the quarterback. When there is so little talent on your team you don't trade the farm for the quarterback.

 

The Redskins are absolutely barren on defense and have no depth at any of those positions. They're the worst defensive team in the NFL. Not sure what you're talking about.

 

And you realize that the Giants still had to trade the No. 4 pick in the 2004 draft, their 2004 third-round pick, and their 2005 first and fifth-round picks, right? Were they wrong to do so?

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The Redskins are absolutely barren on defense and have no depth at any of those positions. They're the worst defensive team in the NFL. Not sure what you're talking about.

 

And you realize that the Giants still had to trade the No. 4 pick in the 2004 draft, their 2004 third-round pick, and their 2005 first and fifth-round picks, right? Were they wrong to do so?

 

I am saying even if the Giants did not trade all those picks for Eli, they would still have a franchise quarterback. He just would have been Philp Rivers.

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I am saying even if the Giants did not trade all those picks for Eli, they would still have a franchise quarterback. He just would have been Philp Rivers.

 

You said it's wrong in every situation for a team to trade up and part with several picks in the process, yet the Giants were a crappy team and did so anyway. They have two Lombardis since that trade.

 

You're simply wrong about it automatically gutting a franchise. Bad picks and bad contracts gut teams, not one trade for a franchise quarterback.

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You said it's wrong in every situation for a team to trade up and part with several picks in the process, yet the Giants were a crappy team and did so anyway. They have two Lombardis since that trade.

 

You're simply wrong about it automatically gutting a franchise. Bad picks and bad contracts gut teams, not one trade for a franchise quarterback.

 

I was saying that trade was not necessary to have a franchise quarterback after you acted like they would have done nothing with Philip Rivers, who has been pretty good in San Diego.

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I was saying that trade was not necessary to have a franchise quarterback after you acted like they would have done nothing with Philip Rivers, who has been pretty good in San Diego.

 

I'm merely providing an example of a team that parted with several picks (including next year's first-rounder) and still saw both short-term and long-term success. A competent front office and a franchise quarterback will more than make up for the assets you part with; Jacksonville fans just have to trust that Caldwell is their guy.

 

I think the Jaguars will end up with the first pick anyway, so this is all hypothetical. But Atlanta will most likely trade the pick if they wind up with it, and the three suitors they'll be calling first would be Jacksonville, Houston, and Minnesota.

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I'm merely providing an example of a team that parted with several picks (including next year's first-rounder) and still saw both short-term and long-term success. A competent front office and a franchise quarterback will more than make up for the assets you part with; Jacksonville fans merely have to trust that Caldwell is their guy.

 

I think the Jaguars will end up with the first pick anyway, so this is all hypothetical. But Atlanta will most likely trade the pick if they wind up with it, and the three suitors they'll be calling first would be Jacksonville, Houston, and Minnesota.

 

The Falcons would decide between trading down and picking Jadaveon Clowney because I read their biggest draft need is on the defensive line.

 

We currently are in the driver's seat for the #1 pick, but with a good chance of beating the Browns and sweeping the Texans, I would not be surprised if Houston clinches it by losing more games.

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