Personally I think this should be the topic concerning you until you apologize. Just because you disagree with someone's interpretation of a 90 second clip doesn't mean you have the right to call them ignorant or make sexually crude and disrespectful comments towards them. You aren't the final arbiter of when someone should be treated respectfully and when they should be thrown out like garbage just because they don't conform to your leftist agenda. Your reluctance to apologize is frankly astonishing given what you said, how you said it and why you said it.

Again.. Wrong thread. And it's not that I disagree with her assessment of the clip. I could not disagree more with the notion she floated that women "let" themselves be touched inappropriately. Has nothing to do with political ideology. I placed an offensive piece of misguided excuse making into context. Had nothing to do with whether or not I think he did it. Had everything to do with the inference women allow themselves to be victimized. If you want to continue to hijack a thread on this, make it the right one. Keep holding your breath waiting for that apology. If she wants to retract her comment and admit the implication she made is off base, I will be happy to apologize for the reference I made in response which you took such offense to. I'm not holding my breath that will happen either.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Republicans not anti science. Interesting.. most scientists do not identify as Republican. A significantly higher number of Republicans reject climate change despite the overwhelming majority of scientists who believe in it. Significantly more Republicans reject evolution than Dems. What is your argument they are not anti science?

Most lawyers do not identify as Republican either.  Know why?  Because Dims traditionally support policies that favor/strengthen the existing tort system.

 

I don't think a majority of Republicans reject all evolution.  I'd say almost all agree that species do evolve to some extent over time.  However, there probably is a majority who don't believe in the big bang or that humans evolved from some amphibian that crawled out of a swamp, but that science isn't exactly settled is it?   

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We learned in the Sunday School who made the sun shine through.  I know who made the moonshine too, back where I come from.

Most lawyers do not identify as Republican either.  Know why?  

 

uh, because they are highly educated?

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Again.. Wrong thread. And it's not that I disagree with her assessment of the clip. I could not disagree more with the notion she floated that women "let" themselves be touched inappropriately. Has nothing to do with political ideology. I placed an offensive piece of misguided excuse making into context. Had nothing to do with whether or not I think he did it. Had everything to do with the inference women allow themselves to be victimized. If you want to continue to hijack a thread on this, make it the right one. Keep holding your breath waiting for that apology. If she wants to retract her comment and admit the implication she made is off base, I will be happy to apologize for the reference I made in response which you took such offense to. I'm not holding my breath that will happen either.

Its about you not the thread. Your chercterization of what she said is almost as baseless and shameful as the vile comment in question. Keep digging brother...

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The Republican party will just dig in deeper.  Like they've always done.  The next four years it'll be blaming Hillary on everything.  (Not that it'd be different if Donald somehow wins, in which case we'll blame Trump for everything.)  It's gone back a while.  Both sides of Americans are drifting further and further apart.  There's so much mudslinging that each side thinks the other side is 'evil'. Nobody's even willing to consider the other side for their own.  I'm not sure there's room for reconciliation at this point.  The party will see Trump's loss as 'he wasn't far right enough'.  But it's not like they can drift left anyway without losing several of their constituents.  Support Obama on anything?  You're out.  We just get more obstructionism.

 

It's only going to get worse, too.  I mean look at all the accusations hurled against Obama.  Like he hates America.  I mean I remember accusations hurled at Bush, and we've gone a step further here.  And Trump/Hillary will be even worse.  How often do you hear someone say "I didn't like Bush as President, but he did a good job with...."  or "I don't like Obama as President, but his idea to... is good"?   or "I don't like Trump, but his position on ___ is good" or "I don't like Hillary, but I prefer her position on ___"?


We're just drifting further and further apart, and it'll continue.  I'm not sure after this election it'll be possible to drift back together.  

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

anti-free trade bull excrement? I don't think you understand how that is killing our country


Free trade is a current staple of the Republican party. No renovation necessary if free trade is what you want.


What comes next? More of the same. There is somewhat of a shift to socialism on one side and libertarianism on another. Not enough however, and the corporate and government owned main stream news will never let either happen.

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I think maybe it would help if all liberals were forced to watch only Fox News for a week, and all conservatives were forced to watch only MSNBC for a week.   Then at least people would understand how these two entirely different realities are constructed.   And they might have some semblance of understanding of why the other side thinks they way they do. 

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I think maybe it would help if all liberals were forced to watch only Fox News for a week, and all conservatives were forced to watch only MSNBC for a week.   Then at least people would understand how these two entirely different realities are constructed.   And they might have some semblance of understanding of why the other side thinks they way they do. 

 

Wrong. FNC and MSNBC are two sides of the same coin.  Both corporate owned, and the politicians mostly are also corporate owned. See the problem?

 

The difference between FNC and MSNBC is not unlike the differences between Republicans and Democrats in office. In public they act like they are total opposites when in reality they rule the same way.  Huge spending, bailouts, military interventionism, open borders, free trade, ect

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Its about you not the thread. Your chercterization of what she said is almost as baseless and shameful as the vile comment in question. Keep digging brother...

Not baseless at all. If it was, she would not have gotten the reaction she did. The reason she got the response she got is all explained in detail in the thread that you are not hijacking.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

uh, because they are highly educated?

Wrong.  Some of it may be the exposure to left thinking in the colleges and universities, but mostly it's because they vote with their wallets in mind.  Trust me...I am one and I hear the discussions in our circles all the time.

 

Smartest thing the left did was to flood colleges and universities with leftist professors years ago.  Brilliant, actually.

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We learned in the Sunday School who made the sun shine through.  I know who made the moonshine too, back where I come from.

Wrong. FNC and MSNBC are two sides of the same coin. Both corporate owned, and the politicians mostly are also corporate owned. See the problem?


The difference between FNC and MSNBC is not unlike the differences between Republicans and Democrats in office. In public they act like they are total opposites when in reality they rule the same way. Huge spending, bailouts, military interventionism, open borders, free trade, ect

Reminds me of the film "Wag the Dog."


Though FNC is more extreme in my opinion. Certainly more false stories. But both do have similar characteristics.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

I think maybe it would help if all liberals were forced to watch only Fox News for a week, and all conservatives were forced to watch only MSNBC for a week.   Then at least people would understand how these two entirely different realities are constructed.   And they might have some semblance of understanding of why the other side thinks they way they do. 

 

I don't think that'd really help.  I know that watching FOX NEWS just raises my blood pressure, and I'm sure conservatives can say the same for MSNBC.  And of course there's plenty of conservatives that don't watch FOX NEWS, and plenty of liberals that don't watch CNN or MSNBC.  


The only way to really fix it would be if we had multiple political parties, so that one party couldn't simply appeal to their electorate and their  electorate alone.

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I was wrong about Trent Baalke. 

part of the game is getting people so upset about the other side that they continue to vote in one of the two ruling parties, who rule exactly the same way.

 

so when your blood boils, think about the Two Minutes Hate from 1984

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Parliamentary law.

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Not baseless at all. If it was, she would not have gotten the reaction she did. The reason she got the response she got is all explained in detail in the thread that you are not hijacking.

WASH THOSE DISHES!!!

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WASH THOSE DISHES!!!

Speaking of baseless..

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Only a chump boos the home team!

Republicans not anti science. Interesting.. most scientists do not identify as Republican. A significantly higher number of Republicans reject climate change despite the overwhelming majority of scientists who believe in it. Significantly more Republicans reject evolution than Dems. What is your argument they are not anti science?

There are no Republicans in any of of my labs or scientific circles. In fact, if you were to go any Science Conference the events and attendees are unapologetically liberal.

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"scientists" are the new priesthood. whatever they say or do must be imitated because they're like really smart and stuff

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Wrong. Some of it may be the exposure to left thinking in the colleges and universities, but mostly it's because they vote with their wallets in mind. Trust me...I am one and I hear the discussions in our circles all the time.


Smartest thing the left did was to flood colleges and universities with leftist professors years ago. Brilliant, actually.

Leftist professors... Lol

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There are no Republicans in any of of my labs or scientific circles. In fact, if you were to go any Science Conference the events and attendees are unapologetically liberal.

 

And most IT/Engineering conferences are majority conservative/libertarian. Why are engineers and IT professionals overwhelmingly right-leaning? Probably something to do wit dat der logic thingy.

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