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(04-21-2020, 04:25 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Round 1
9. Jacksonville- Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
10. Cleveland- [font=Arial]Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia [/font]
11. NY Jets- Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
12. Las Vegas- CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
20. Jacksonville (via LAR)- Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
21. Philadelphia- Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
22. Minnesota (Via Buffalo)- Austin Jackson, OT, USC
23. New England- Josh Jones, OT, Houston
24. New Orleans- Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
25. Minnesota- Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
26. Miami (from Houston)- Grant Delpit, S, LSU
27. Seattle- Yetur Gross- Matos, DE, Penn State
28. Baltimore- Kenneth Murray, ILB, Oklahoma
29. Tennessee- Terrell Lewis, OLB, Alabama
30. Green Bay- [font=Arial]Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma[/font]
31. San Francisco- Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah
32. Kansas City- D’Andre Swift, RB, Georgia
Round 2
42. Jacksonville- Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU
Round 3
73. Jacksonville- Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State
Round 4
116. Jacksonville- Nick Coe, DE, Auburn
117. New England (Via Tampa Bay)- Julian Blackmon, S/CB, Utah
118. Denver- [font=Arial]Van Jefferson, WR, Florida [/font]
119. Atlanta- Jason Strowbridge, DE, N.C.
120. N.Y. Jets- [font=Arial]Logan Stenberg, OG/OT, Kentucky [/font]
121. Las Vegas- Larrell Murchison, DT, N.C. State
122. Indianapolis- Khalid Kareem, DE, Notre Dame
123. Dallas- Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
124. Pittsburgh- Antonio Gibson, RB/WR, Memphis
125. New England (Via Chi)- [font=Arial]Shaquille Quarterman, LB, Miami[/font]
126. L.A. Rams- Charlie Heck, OT, N.C.
127. Philadelphia- [font=Arial]Collin Johnson, WR, Texas [/font]
128. Buffalo- [font=Arial]Jonah Jackson, OG, Ohio State [/font]
129. Baltimore (Via NE)- Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn
130. New Orleans- Damien Lewis, OG, LSU
131. Arizona (Via Houston)- [font=Arial][font=Arial]Michael Pinckney, ILB, Miami[/font] [/font]
132. Minnesota- William Gay, LB, Mississippi St.
133. Seattle- K’Von Wallace, S, Clemson
134. Atlanta (Via Balt)- Zack Moss, RB, Utah
135. Pitt (Via Mia Via Tenn)- Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
136. Green Bay- [font=Arial]Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF [/font]
137. Jacksonville (Via Den Via SF)- Darrynton Evans, RB, App. State
138. Kansas City- Darryl Williams, C/OG, Mississippi St.
139. Tampa Bay- Terrell Burgess, CB, Utah
140. Jacksonville (Via Chi)- Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa
141. Miami- Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas
142. Washington- Darnay Holmes, CB, UCLA
143. Baltimore- LaMical Perine, RB, Florida
144. Seattle- Trey Adams, OT, Washington
145. Philadelphia- Nick Harris, C/OG, Washington
146. Philadelphia- Yasir Durant, OT, Missouri
Round 5
147. Cincinnati- [font=Arial]Joe Bachie, LB, Michigan State [/font]
148. Carolina (Via Wash)- Branden Bowen, OT/OG, Ohio State
149. Detroit- Colton McKivitz, OT, West Virginia
150. N.Y. Giants- LaVert Hill, CB, Michigan
151. L.A. Chargers- Albert Okwuebugnum, TE, Missouri
152. Arizona- (Forfeit)
153. Carolina- Michael Onwenu, OG, Michigan
154. Miami- Alex Highsmith, OLB, Charlotte
155. Miami (Via Pitt Via Jax)- Sean Pollard, OG/C, Clemson
156. Buffalo (Via Cleve)- A.J. Dillon, RB, Boston College
157. SF (Via Den)- Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
158. Baltimore (Via Atlanta)- Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford
159. N.Y. Jets- Eno Benjamin, RB, Arizona State
160. Las Vegas- Parnell Motley, CB, Oklahoma
161. Indianapolis- Brandon Jones, S, Texas
162. Tampa Bay- James Morgan, QB, FIU
163. Wash (Via Sea Via Pitt)- Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
164. Chicago-.Hakeem Adeniji, OG/OT, Kansas
165. Dallas- Dane Jackson, CB, Pitt
166. Jacksonville (Via L.A.R.)- John Runyan Jr., OG/OT, Michigan
167. Detroit (Via Phil)- Chris Orr, LB, Wisconsin
168. Minn (Via Buff)- J.R. Reed, S, Georgia
169. Phil (Via NE)- Derrek Tuszka, DE, NDSU
170. New Orleans- Cam Brown, LB, Penn State
171. Jacksonville (Via Balt Via Minn)- Jordan Fuller, S, Ohio State
172. Houston- Michael Divinity, OLB, LSU
173. NE (Via Det Via Sea)- Oluwole Betiku, OLB, Illinois
174. Mia (Via LAR Via Balt)- Francis Bernard, ILB, Utah
175. Tennessee- McTelvin Agim, DE/DT, Arkansas
176. Green Bay- Jabari Zuniga, OLB, Florida
177. San Francisco- Danny Pinter, OG/OT, Ball State
178. Kansas City- Stanford Samuels, CB/S, Florida State
179. Denver- Nate Stanley, QB, Iowa
180. Dallas- Mykal Walker, LB, Fresno State
Round 6
181. Cincinnati- Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota
182. Denver (Via Wash)- Joe Gaziano, DE, Northwestern
183. Detroit- Shyheim Carter, S, Alabama
184. N.Y. Giants- Casey Toohill, OLB, Stanford
185. Carolina- Anthony Gordon, QB, Washington State
186. Miami- Drew Richmond, OT, USC
187. L.A. Chargers- Jalen Elliott, S, Notre Dame
188. Cleveland (Via Ari)- Jonathan Garvin, DE, Miami
189. Buffalo (Via Cleve)- Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
190. Jacksonville- Malcolm Roach, DT, Texas
191. Phil (Via Atl)- Ke’Shawn Vaughn, RB, Vanderbilt
192. N.Y. Jets- Robert Windsor, DE/DT, Penn State
193. Green Bay (Via LV)- Essang Bassey, CB, Wake Forest
194. Indianapolis- John Reid, CB, Penn State
195. Miami (Via Dall)- Steve Gonzales, OG, Penn State
196. Tampa Bay- [font=Arial]Tanner Muse, S, Clemson[/font]
197. NE (Via Den)- John Hightower, WR, Boise State
198. Chicago- [font=Arial]David Dowell, S, Michigan State [/font]
199. Ind (Via Mia Via Dall)- Kamal Martin, LB, Minnesota
200. Pittsburgh- Bravvion Roy, DT, Baylor
201. L.A. Rams- Daniel Bituli, ILB, Tennessee
202. Chi (Via Phil)- Jared Hilbers, OT, Washington
203. Minnesota (Via Buff)- DeMarcus Acy, CB, Missouri
204. Arizona (Via NE)- Tremayne Anchrum, OG/OT, Clemson
205. New Orleans- K.J. Hill, WR. Ohio State
206. NE (Via Hou)- Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU
207. Minnesota- Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland
208. Jacksonville (Via Sea)- Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
209. Buff (Via NE Via Balt)- Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina St.
210. GB (Via Tennessee)- Darrell Stewart Jr., WR, Michigan St.
211. Green Bay- Benito Jones, DT, Mississippi
212. San Francisco- [font=Arial]Khaleke Hudson, S/LB, Michigan[/font]
213. N.Y.J (Via KC)- Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island
214. New England- Garrett Marino, DT, UAB
215. New England- Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA
216. Seattle- Shaun Bradley, LB, Temple
Round 7
217. Cincinnati- Marcus Keyes, OG, Oklahoma State
218. Washington- Calvin Throckmorton, OG/OT, Oregon
219. SF (Via Det)- [font=Arial]Keith Ismael, C, San Diego State [/font]
220. N.Y. Giants- Cale Garrett, ILB, Missouri
221. Minnesota (Via Mia)- Jake Hanson, C/OG, Oregon
222. L.A. Chargers- Josiah Scott, CB, Michigan State
223. Carolina- Josiah Deguara, TE, Cincinnati
224. Arizona- D.J. Wonnum, OLB, South Carolina
225. Jacksonville- Azur Kamara, LB, Kansas
226. Tenn (Via Cleve)- John Houston Jr., ILB, USC
227. Baltimore (Via NYJ)- Darrion Daniels, DT, Nebraska
228. Chicago (Via LV)- Justin Herron, OG/OT, Wake Forest
229. Miami (Via Ind)- Kindle Vildor, CB, Georgia Southern
230. Atl (Via Phi Via TB)- Juwan Johnson, TE/WR, Oregon
231. Wash (Via Den)- Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin
232. Tampa Bay (Via NE Via Atl)- [font=Arial]Trystan Colon-Castillo, C/OG, Missouri [/font]
233. Dallas- Donavan Peoples-Jones, WR, Mich. State
234. Pittsburgh- Terence Steele, OT, Texas Tech
235. Chicago- Dante Olson, ILB, Montana
236. L.A. Rams- Carter Coughlin, OLB, Minnesota
237. Det (Via NE Via Phi)- Chauncey Rivers, DE, Miss. St.
238. GB (Via Cleve Via Buff)- Noah Togiai, TE, Oregon State
239. Tenn (Via Den Via NE)- Alton Robinson, OLB, Syracuse
240. NYG (Via NO)- Austin Edwards, DE, Ferris State
241. Buffalo (Via Minn)- Dele Harding, LB, Illinois
242. Houston- Calvin Taylor Jr., DE, Kentucky
243. NE (Via Sea)- Tyre Phillips, OG/OT, Mississippi State
244. GB (Via Balt)- Tre’Vour Wallace-Simms, OG, Missouri
245. Tennessee- Stephen Sullivan, TE, LSU
246. Cleve (Via GB)- John Phillips, OG, Boston College
247. San Francisco- Davion Taylor, LB, Colorado
248. Miami (Via KC)- [font=Arial]Alohi Gillman, S, Notre Dame [/font]
249. New York Giants- Victor Johnson, OG/OT, App. St.
250. Houston- Scott Frantz, OG/OT, Kansas State
251. Minnesota- Kalija Lipscomb, WR, Vanderbilt
252. Houston- Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee
253. Miami- Isaiah Hodgins, WR, Oregon State
254. Denver- John Penisini, DT, Utah
255. Minnesota- Cole McDonald, QB, Hawaii
256. Denver- L'Jarius Snead, S, La. Tech
257. New York Giants- Javon Leake, RB, Maryland
I really like the top three picks. At 9, I would very easily be happy with Wirfs, Thomas Jeudy or Ruggs. Wirfs feet, athleticism, wrestling background, college coaching/level of competition and limited experience at LT are appealling.
Jefferson is smooth and versatile and now has experience in a pro style offense. In many of the online mocks I've done, I trade with new Orleans to let them get Jordan Love at 20, and pick up #88 overall from them. But to do so under this scenario, we'd likely miss out on Jefferson between Minnesota and Philadelphia. I don't know if I like him better than Aiyuk, but I would happy with Jefferson at 20.
If we were forcing a CB pick at 20, I like Gladney enough to consider him there. Very good zone awareness and athleticism. Kmet, Tee Higgins, Winfield and Cesar Ruiz would be serious temptations there..
Round 3. a solid pick. I might have gone Cam Akers or Leki Fotu (a favorite of mine)
The only issue I have with it is with only one WR taken you don't take advantage of the depth of this class. We cut Lee (no big shock), Conley is just a guy. Cole is Just a guy. Both of them have one year left on their contracts. Dede Westbrook is nothing special.
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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(04-22-2020, 02:48 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: (04-21-2020, 10:53 PM)jaglou53 Wrote: Love the 1st round. I'm not crazy about Gladney due to his size. At 5'10", I don't see him covering all the taller receivers they will inevitably face. Herndon is only slightly taller than him, so any decent q.b. would have a field-day against this secondary. In your mock, I probably would have traded up and taken Diggs. He will definitely have a learning curve, but he is much taller than Gladney. Dantzler is another intriguing guy who has good height. I would have also taken Winfield in the 3rd over the DT from Ohio State.
To be honest, I'm not high on shorter CB's either. 5'10" is my absolute cutoff for the position. With that said, once you get passed Okudah and Jaylon Johnson, I see the best value for CB's in the 3-5 round range, but given that we lack quality starters at the position, I can't see the Jags waiting until round 3 to draft a CB. I'd take Gladney any day over Diggs and Dantzler though. Diggs is probably the most overrated CB in the draft. I saw him get torched on several occasions last season and he looks like he lacks the recovery speed once he gets beat. There is no way I'd draft him with the expectations he'd be my #1 CB. He'd be lucky to win a job as a #2 CB. To me, his absolute ceiling is the equivalent of Dre' Kirkpatrick. Dantzler is another "no go" for me. He looks like he's running in cement shoes, IMO and that was confirmed at the Combine. He ran a God awful, 4.64 and 4.65. That's what an average Safety runs. IMO, he needs to be moved to Safety, because he lacks the functional speed to cover #1 receivers on the outside. This is not a deep CB class unfortunately. There is a huge dropoff from Okudah to the next guy, Jaylon Johnson IMO and then there is another sharp dropoff after that. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of trading up for Okudah. I believe, he's without a doubt, the safest pick in this draft and a guy that will be a future All-Pro. If it's me and Okudah, Brown, Wirfs and Thomas are gone by pick #9, I take the top WR on my board and then I take CB Jaylon Johnson at pick #20, if Kinlaw is gone. If Kinlaw and Johnson are both gone, I trade down into the mid to low 2nd round and hopefully, I pick up a 2021 1st rounder.
I'm pretty entrenched on Hamilton in the 3rd. He's the only other true NT in this draft other than Brown, who can effectively stop the run as well as collapse the pocket and get to the QB. Every other NT in the draft are pretty much "one trick ponies." They are either run stuffers only or they can collapse the pocket, but aren't very good when it comes to stopping the run. Have you watched the tape on Dantzler against LSU? He shut down J'Mar Chase- one of the top 3 receivers in college last season. As far as his speed, he was later timed at his pro-day at 4.4 and he claimed to not be 100% at the combine. Regardless of that, I believe he is underrated and his slow time at the combine could work in the Jaguars' favor if they get him in the 3rd round (or trade up to the end of round 2). No doubt that Johnson is moving up draft boards and apparently the Raiders are strongly considering him at pick 19. I wouldn't hate it if the Jaguars got Johnson at 20, but I'd rather they take either the best receiver of offensive lineman on the board with that pick.
(04-22-2020, 06:53 PM)Bullseye Wrote: (04-21-2020, 04:25 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: Round 1
9. Jacksonville- Tristan Wirfs, OT, Iowa
10. Cleveland- [font=Arial]Andrew Thomas, OT, Georgia [/font]
11. NY Jets- Jerry Jeudy, WR, Alabama
12. Las Vegas- CeeDee Lamb, WR, Oklahoma
20. Jacksonville (via LAR)- Justin Jefferson, WR, LSU
21. Philadelphia- Patrick Queen, LB, LSU
22. Minnesota (Via Buffalo)- Austin Jackson, OT, USC
23. New England- Josh Jones, OT, Houston
24. New Orleans- Jordan Love, QB, Utah State
25. Minnesota- Brandon Aiyuk, WR, Arizona State
26. Miami (from Houston)- Grant Delpit, S, LSU
27. Seattle- Yetur Gross- Matos, DE, Penn State
28. Baltimore- Kenneth Murray, ILB, Oklahoma
29. Tennessee- Terrell Lewis, OLB, Alabama
30. Green Bay- [font=Arial]Jalen Hurts, QB, Oklahoma[/font]
31. San Francisco- Jaylon Johnson, CB, Utah
32. Kansas City- D’Andre Swift, RB, Georgia
Round 2
42. Jacksonville- Jeff Gladney, CB, TCU
Round 3
73. Jacksonville- Davon Hamilton, DT, Ohio State
Round 4
116. Jacksonville- Nick Coe, DE, Auburn
117. New England (Via Tampa Bay)- Julian Blackmon, S/CB, Utah
118. Denver- [font=Arial]Van Jefferson, WR, Florida [/font]
119. Atlanta- Jason Strowbridge, DE, N.C.
120. N.Y. Jets- [font=Arial]Logan Stenberg, OG/OT, Kentucky [/font]
121. Las Vegas- Larrell Murchison, DT, N.C. State
122. Indianapolis- Khalid Kareem, DE, Notre Dame
123. Dallas- Hunter Bryant, TE, Washington
124. Pittsburgh- Antonio Gibson, RB/WR, Memphis
125. New England (Via Chi)- [font=Arial]Shaquille Quarterman, LB, Miami[/font]
126. L.A. Rams- Charlie Heck, OT, N.C.
127. Philadelphia- [font=Arial]Collin Johnson, WR, Texas [/font]
128. Buffalo- [font=Arial]Jonah Jackson, OG, Ohio State [/font]
129. Baltimore (Via NE)- Jack Driscoll, OT, Auburn
130. New Orleans- Damien Lewis, OG, LSU
131. Arizona (Via Houston)- [font=Arial][font=Arial]Michael Pinckney, ILB, Miami[/font] [/font]
132. Minnesota- William Gay, LB, Mississippi St.
133. Seattle- K’Von Wallace, S, Clemson
134. Atlanta (Via Balt)- Zack Moss, RB, Utah
135. Pitt (Via Mia Via Tenn)- Brycen Hopkins, TE, Purdue
136. Green Bay- [font=Arial]Gabriel Davis, WR, UCF [/font]
137. Jacksonville (Via Den Via SF)- Darrynton Evans, RB, App. State
138. Kansas City- Darryl Williams, C/OG, Mississippi St.
139. Tampa Bay- Terrell Burgess, CB, Utah
140. Jacksonville (Via Chi)- Reggie Robinson II, CB, Tulsa
141. Miami- Devin Duvernay, WR, Texas
142. Washington- Darnay Holmes, CB, UCLA
143. Baltimore- LaMical Perine, RB, Florida
144. Seattle- Trey Adams, OT, Washington
145. Philadelphia- Nick Harris, C/OG, Washington
146. Philadelphia- Yasir Durant, OT, Missouri
Round 5
147. Cincinnati- [font=Arial]Joe Bachie, LB, Michigan State [/font]
148. Carolina (Via Wash)- Branden Bowen, OT/OG, Ohio State
149. Detroit- Colton McKivitz, OT, West Virginia
150. N.Y. Giants- LaVert Hill, CB, Michigan
151. L.A. Chargers- Albert Okwuebugnum, TE, Missouri
152. Arizona- (Forfeit)
153. Carolina- Michael Onwenu, OG, Michigan
154. Miami- Alex Highsmith, OLB, Charlotte
155. Miami (Via Pitt Via Jax)- Sean Pollard, OG/C, Clemson
156. Buffalo (Via Cleve)- A.J. Dillon, RB, Boston College
157. SF (Via Den)- Bryan Edwards, WR, South Carolina
158. Baltimore (Via Atlanta)- Colby Parkinson, TE, Stanford
159. N.Y. Jets- Eno Benjamin, RB, Arizona State
160. Las Vegas- Parnell Motley, CB, Oklahoma
161. Indianapolis- Brandon Jones, S, Texas
162. Tampa Bay- James Morgan, QB, FIU
163. Wash (Via Sea Via Pitt)- Jared Pinkney, TE, Vanderbilt
164. Chicago-.Hakeem Adeniji, OG/OT, Kansas
165. Dallas- Dane Jackson, CB, Pitt
166. Jacksonville (Via L.A.R.)- John Runyan Jr., OG/OT, Michigan
167. Detroit (Via Phil)- Chris Orr, LB, Wisconsin
168. Minn (Via Buff)- J.R. Reed, S, Georgia
169. Phil (Via NE)- Derrek Tuszka, DE, NDSU
170. New Orleans- Cam Brown, LB, Penn State
171. Jacksonville (Via Balt Via Minn)- Jordan Fuller, S, Ohio State
172. Houston- Michael Divinity, OLB, LSU
173. NE (Via Det Via Sea)- Oluwole Betiku, OLB, Illinois
174. Mia (Via LAR Via Balt)- Francis Bernard, ILB, Utah
175. Tennessee- McTelvin Agim, DE/DT, Arkansas
176. Green Bay- Jabari Zuniga, OLB, Florida
177. San Francisco- Danny Pinter, OG/OT, Ball State
178. Kansas City- Stanford Samuels, CB/S, Florida State
179. Denver- Nate Stanley, QB, Iowa
180. Dallas- Mykal Walker, LB, Fresno State
Round 6
181. Cincinnati- Tyler Johnson, WR, Minnesota
182. Denver (Via Wash)- Joe Gaziano, DE, Northwestern
183. Detroit- Shyheim Carter, S, Alabama
184. N.Y. Giants- Casey Toohill, OLB, Stanford
185. Carolina- Anthony Gordon, QB, Washington State
186. Miami- Drew Richmond, OT, USC
187. L.A. Chargers- Jalen Elliott, S, Notre Dame
188. Cleveland (Via Ari)- Jonathan Garvin, DE, Miami
189. Buffalo (Via Cleve)- Devin Asiasi, TE, UCLA
190. Jacksonville- Malcolm Roach, DT, Texas
191. Phil (Via Atl)- Ke’Shawn Vaughn, RB, Vanderbilt
192. N.Y. Jets- Robert Windsor, DE/DT, Penn State
193. Green Bay (Via LV)- Essang Bassey, CB, Wake Forest
194. Indianapolis- John Reid, CB, Penn State
195. Miami (Via Dall)- Steve Gonzales, OG, Penn State
196. Tampa Bay- [font=Arial]Tanner Muse, S, Clemson[/font]
197. NE (Via Den)- John Hightower, WR, Boise State
198. Chicago- [font=Arial]David Dowell, S, Michigan State [/font]
199. Ind (Via Mia Via Dall)- Kamal Martin, LB, Minnesota
200. Pittsburgh- Bravvion Roy, DT, Baylor
201. L.A. Rams- Daniel Bituli, ILB, Tennessee
202. Chi (Via Phil)- Jared Hilbers, OT, Washington
203. Minnesota (Via Buff)- DeMarcus Acy, CB, Missouri
204. Arizona (Via NE)- Tremayne Anchrum, OG/OT, Clemson
205. New Orleans- K.J. Hill, WR. Ohio State
206. NE (Via Hou)- Thaddeus Moss, TE, LSU
207. Minnesota- Anthony McFarland, RB, Maryland
208. Jacksonville (Via Sea)- Jacob Breeland, TE, Oregon
209. Buff (Via NE Via Balt)- Alex Taylor, OT, South Carolina St.
210. GB (Via Tennessee)- Darrell Stewart Jr., WR, Michigan St.
211. Green Bay- Benito Jones, DT, Mississippi
212. San Francisco- [font=Arial]Khaleke Hudson, S/LB, Michigan[/font]
213. N.Y.J (Via KC)- Isaiah Coulter, WR, Rhode Island
214. New England- Garrett Marino, DT, UAB
215. New England- Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA
216. Seattle- Shaun Bradley, LB, Temple
Round 7
217. Cincinnati- Marcus Keyes, OG, Oklahoma State
218. Washington- Calvin Throckmorton, OG/OT, Oregon
219. SF (Via Det)- [font=Arial]Keith Ismael, C, San Diego State [/font]
220. N.Y. Giants- Cale Garrett, ILB, Missouri
221. Minnesota (Via Mia)- Jake Hanson, C/OG, Oregon
222. L.A. Chargers- Josiah Scott, CB, Michigan State
223. Carolina- Josiah Deguara, TE, Cincinnati
224. Arizona- D.J. Wonnum, OLB, South Carolina
225. Jacksonville- Azur Kamara, LB, Kansas
226. Tenn (Via Cleve)- John Houston Jr., ILB, USC
227. Baltimore (Via NYJ)- Darrion Daniels, DT, Nebraska
228. Chicago (Via LV)- Justin Herron, OG/OT, Wake Forest
229. Miami (Via Ind)- Kindle Vildor, CB, Georgia Southern
230. Atl (Via Phi Via TB)- Juwan Johnson, TE/WR, Oregon
231. Wash (Via Den)- Quintez Cephus, WR, Wisconsin
232. Tampa Bay (Via NE Via Atl)- [font=Arial]Trystan Colon-Castillo, C/OG, Missouri [/font]
233. Dallas- Donavan Peoples-Jones, WR, Mich. State
234. Pittsburgh- Terence Steele, OT, Texas Tech
235. Chicago- Dante Olson, ILB, Montana
236. L.A. Rams- Carter Coughlin, OLB, Minnesota
237. Det (Via NE Via Phi)- Chauncey Rivers, DE, Miss. St.
238. GB (Via Cleve Via Buff)- Noah Togiai, TE, Oregon State
239. Tenn (Via Den Via NE)- Alton Robinson, OLB, Syracuse
240. NYG (Via NO)- Austin Edwards, DE, Ferris State
241. Buffalo (Via Minn)- Dele Harding, LB, Illinois
242. Houston- Calvin Taylor Jr., DE, Kentucky
243. NE (Via Sea)- Tyre Phillips, OG/OT, Mississippi State
244. GB (Via Balt)- Tre’Vour Wallace-Simms, OG, Missouri
245. Tennessee- Stephen Sullivan, TE, LSU
246. Cleve (Via GB)- John Phillips, OG, Boston College
247. San Francisco- Davion Taylor, LB, Colorado
248. Miami (Via KC)- [font=Arial]Alohi Gillman, S, Notre Dame [/font]
249. New York Giants- Victor Johnson, OG/OT, App. St.
250. Houston- Scott Frantz, OG/OT, Kansas State
251. Minnesota- Kalija Lipscomb, WR, Vanderbilt
252. Houston- Jauan Jennings, WR, Tennessee
253. Miami- Isaiah Hodgins, WR, Oregon State
254. Denver- John Penisini, DT, Utah
255. Minnesota- Cole McDonald, QB, Hawaii
256. Denver- L'Jarius Snead, S, La. Tech
257. New York Giants- Javon Leake, RB, Maryland
I really like the top three picks. At 9, I would very easily be happy with Wirfs, Thomas Jeudy or Ruggs. Wirfs feet, athleticism, wrestling background, college coaching/level of competition and limited experience at LT are appealling.
Jefferson is smooth and versatile and now has experience in a pro style offense. In many of the online mocks I've done, I trade with new Orleans to let them get Jordan Love at 20, and pick up #88 overall from them. But to do so under this scenario, we'd likely miss out on Jefferson between Minnesota and Philadelphia. I don't know if I like him better than Aiyuk, but I would happy with Jefferson at 20.
If we were forcing a CB pick at 20, I like Gladney enough to consider him there. Very good zone awareness and athleticism. Kmet, Tee Higgins, Winfield and Cesar Ruiz would be serious temptations there..
Round 3. a solid pick. I might have gone Cam Akers or Leki Fotu (a favorite of mine)
The only issue I have with it is with only one WR taken you don't take advantage of the depth of this class. We cut Lee (no big shock), Conley is just a guy. Cole is Just a guy. Both of them have one year left on their contracts. Dede Westbrook is nothing special.
I'm higher on Westbrook than others. I also think Conley did a pretty good job last year as well. If they play like they did last season, I would re-sign one or both of them. They should be cheap. Take into account where Chark would be on one side, a highly rated rookie on the other with Westbrook in the slot and Conley as the #4 receiver, I would be very satisfied with that.
(04-23-2020, 12:25 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: (04-22-2020, 02:48 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: To be honest, I'm not high on shorter CB's either. 5'10" is my absolute cutoff for the position. With that said, once you get passed Okudah and Jaylon Johnson, I see the best value for CB's in the 3-5 round range, but given that we lack quality starters at the position, I can't see the Jags waiting until round 3 to draft a CB. I'd take Gladney any day over Diggs and Dantzler though. Diggs is probably the most overrated CB in the draft. I saw him get torched on several occasions last season and he looks like he lacks the recovery speed once he gets beat. There is no way I'd draft him with the expectations he'd be my #1 CB. He'd be lucky to win a job as a #2 CB. To me, his absolute ceiling is the equivalent of Dre' Kirkpatrick. Dantzler is another "no go" for me. He looks like he's running in cement shoes, IMO and that was confirmed at the Combine. He ran a God awful, 4.64 and 4.65. That's what an average Safety runs. IMO, he needs to be moved to Safety, because he lacks the functional speed to cover #1 receivers on the outside. This is not a deep CB class unfortunately. There is a huge dropoff from Okudah to the next guy, Jaylon Johnson IMO and then there is another sharp dropoff after that. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of trading up for Okudah. I believe, he's without a doubt, the safest pick in this draft and a guy that will be a future All-Pro. If it's me and Okudah, Brown, Wirfs and Thomas are gone by pick #9, I take the top WR on my board and then I take CB Jaylon Johnson at pick #20, if Kinlaw is gone. If Kinlaw and Johnson are both gone, I trade down into the mid to low 2nd round and hopefully, I pick up a 2021 1st rounder.
I'm pretty entrenched on Hamilton in the 3rd. He's the only other true NT in this draft other than Brown, who can effectively stop the run as well as collapse the pocket and get to the QB. Every other NT in the draft are pretty much "one trick ponies." They are either run stuffers only or they can collapse the pocket, but aren't very good when it comes to stopping the run. Have you watched the tape on Dantzler against LSU? He shut down J'Mar Chase- one of the top 3 receivers in college last season. As far as his speed, he was later timed at his pro-day at 4.4 and he claimed to not be 100% at the combine. Regardless of that, I believe he is underrated and his slow time at the combine could work in the Jaguars' favor if they get him in the 3rd round (or trade up to the end of round 2). No doubt that Johnson is moving up draft boards and apparently the Raiders are strongly considering him at pick 19. I wouldn't hate it if the Jaguars got Johnson at 20, but I'd rather they take either the best receiver of offensive lineman on the board with that pick.
I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe. He supposedly went from a 4.64/40 at the Combine to a 4.38/40 at his pro day where no scouts were in attendance, because of a travel ban and he was being hand timed by his coaches? C'mon....... Of course the school wants to make their players look good, but they should have tried to make it at least a little realistic, by saying he ran in the 4.5-4.55 range. I probably would have bought that, but a 4.38? No way!
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(04-23-2020, 12:49 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: (04-22-2020, 06:53 PM)Bullseye Wrote: I really like the top three picks. At 9, I would very easily be happy with Wirfs, Thomas Jeudy or Ruggs. Wirfs feet, athleticism, wrestling background, college coaching/level of competition and limited experience at LT are appealling.
Jefferson is smooth and versatile and now has experience in a pro style offense. In many of the online mocks I've done, I trade with new Orleans to let them get Jordan Love at 20, and pick up #88 overall from them. But to do so under this scenario, we'd likely miss out on Jefferson between Minnesota and Philadelphia. I don't know if I like him better than Aiyuk, but I would happy with Jefferson at 20.
If we were forcing a CB pick at 20, I like Gladney enough to consider him there. Very good zone awareness and athleticism. Kmet, Tee Higgins, Winfield and Cesar Ruiz would be serious temptations there..
Round 3. a solid pick. I might have gone Cam Akers or Leki Fotu (a favorite of mine)
The only issue I have with it is with only one WR taken you don't take advantage of the depth of this class. We cut Lee (no big shock), Conley is just a guy. Cole is Just a guy. Both of them have one year left on their contracts. Dede Westbrook is nothing special.
I'm higher on Westbrook than others. I also think Conley did a pretty good job last year as well. If they play like they did last season, I would re-sign one or both of them. They should be cheap. Take into account where Chark would be on one side, a highly rated rookie on the other with Westbrook in the slot and Conley as the #4 receiver, I would be very satisfied with that. What would you do with #19 if the Ngakoue trade materializes are reported by Walterfootball?
Worst to 1st. Curse Reversed!
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(04-23-2020, 12:59 AM)Bullseye Wrote: (04-23-2020, 12:49 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: I'm higher on Westbrook than others. I also think Conley did a pretty good job last year as well. If they play like they did last season, I would re-sign one or both of them. They should be cheap. Take into account where Chark would be on one side, a highly rated rookie on the other with Westbrook in the slot and Conley as the #4 receiver, I would be very satisfied with that. What would you do with #19 if the Ngakoue trade materializes are reported by Walterfootball?
I'd have to see who is available, but looking at where I have things ending up though, I'd easily select Jefferson at #19 and CB Jaylon Johnson of Utah at #20, since he would be my BAP and would fill a HUGE need. I'd probably then use that 2nd round on RB Jonathan Taylor with the assumption that Fournette was gonna get moved. That way I get a much better CB than I was gonna get before and I end up with a potential blind side protector for Minshew, a #2 receiving target and a big time rusher to improve the offense. Sounds pretty good to me.
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(04-23-2020, 12:58 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: (04-23-2020, 12:25 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: Have you watched the tape on Dantzler against LSU? He shut down J'Mar Chase- one of the top 3 receivers in college last season. As far as his speed, he was later timed at his pro-day at 4.4 and he claimed to not be 100% at the combine. Regardless of that, I believe he is underrated and his slow time at the combine could work in the Jaguars' favor if they get him in the 3rd round (or trade up to the end of round 2). No doubt that Johnson is moving up draft boards and apparently the Raiders are strongly considering him at pick 19. I wouldn't hate it if the Jaguars got Johnson at 20, but I'd rather they take either the best receiver of offensive lineman on the board with that pick.
I find this EXTREMELY hard to believe. He supposedly went from a 4.64/40 at the Combine to a 4.38/40 at his pro day where no scouts were in attendance, because of a travel ban and he was being hand timed by his coaches? C'mon....... Of course the school wants to make their players look good, but they should have tried to make it at least a little realistic, by saying he ran in the 4.5-4.55 range. I probably would have bought that, but a 4.38? No way!
You may be right about this, but there's no denying what he did to Chase and every other team's #1 receiver last year. Not sure what his secret is- maybe it's his "cement shoes."
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