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(01-05-2022, 07:00 PM)Ronster Wrote: Because dems cheat - IE ballot harvesting.

"Heather Mullins from Real Americas Voice later reported on the John Fredericks radio show that there is video that captures 240 ballot traffickers in Georgia. Each of the traffickers averaged 23-24 drops where they would empty backpacks into the ballot boxes.  True The Vote was able to take cell phone ping data on a mass wide-scale and piece together that several people—suspected ballot harvesters—were making multiple trips to multiple drop boxes, raising potential legal questions in a number of these states — 242 in Georgia and around 200 in Arizona.



John Fredericks — “Here’s the bottom line. You can’t ballot harvest in Georgia. What turned this around is that a whistleblower in Georgia came forward. On the tapes they identified 240 of the same people going around the state stuffing ballot drop boxes between 2 and 5 AM… where they were emptying backpacks out and they were dropping 50, 100 ballots into a dropbox. This is totally illegal… Here’s the bottom line, right? The one whistleblower that came forward because allegedly his mom said, hey what you’re doing is wrong and you need to be honest about it. Own up to it. He said that he was paid $10 per ballot… And he made $45,000 between November 3rd and the runoff. Two elections he made $45,000!… Now do the math.”



“There were 240 people of the same ones over and over in the same car involved in it. You start doing the math here. 45,000 time 240 people. You’ve got $11 million dollars distributed illegally. Then you take 4500 ballots by 240 people. You’re talking about a million ballots.”"

Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA (and FL) and they should be prosecuted.
However those were all still valid votes from real people.
It would be fair, but somewhat chaotic, if they made ballot harvesting legal, that way both parties can participate.
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(01-05-2022, 08:25 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 07:00 PM)Ronster Wrote: Because dems cheat - IE ballot harvesting.

"Heather Mullins from Real Americas Voice later reported on the John Fredericks radio show that there is video that captures 240 ballot traffickers in Georgia. Each of the traffickers averaged 23-24 drops where they would empty backpacks into the ballot boxes.  True The Vote was able to take cell phone ping data on a mass wide-scale and piece together that several people—suspected ballot harvesters—were making multiple trips to multiple drop boxes, raising potential legal questions in a number of these states — 242 in Georgia and around 200 in Arizona.



John Fredericks — “Here’s the bottom line. You can’t ballot harvest in Georgia. What turned this around is that a whistleblower in Georgia came forward. On the tapes they identified 240 of the same people going around the state stuffing ballot drop boxes between 2 and 5 AM… where they were emptying backpacks out and they were dropping 50, 100 ballots into a dropbox. This is totally illegal… Here’s the bottom line, right? The one whistleblower that came forward because allegedly his mom said, hey what you’re doing is wrong and you need to be honest about it. Own up to it. He said that he was paid $10 per ballot… And he made $45,000 between November 3rd and the runoff. Two elections he made $45,000!… Now do the math.”



“There were 240 people of the same ones over and over in the same car involved in it. You start doing the math here. 45,000 time 240 people. You’ve got $11 million dollars distributed illegally. Then you take 4500 ballots by 240 people. You’re talking about a million ballots.”"

Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA (and FL) and they should be prosecuted.
However those were all still valid votes from real people.
It would be fair, but somewhat chaotic, if they made ballot harvesting legal, that way both parties can participate.

No. If you can’t go vote, mail your own damn ballot in yourself. No one else needs to gather up ballots for anyone!
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(01-05-2022, 08:25 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 07:00 PM)Ronster Wrote: Because dems cheat - IE ballot harvesting.

"Heather Mullins from Real Americas Voice later reported on the John Fredericks radio show that there is video that captures 240 ballot traffickers in Georgia. Each of the traffickers averaged 23-24 drops where they would empty backpacks into the ballot boxes.  True The Vote was able to take cell phone ping data on a mass wide-scale and piece together that several people—suspected ballot harvesters—were making multiple trips to multiple drop boxes, raising potential legal questions in a number of these states — 242 in Georgia and around 200 in Arizona.



John Fredericks — “Here’s the bottom line. You can’t ballot harvest in Georgia. What turned this around is that a whistleblower in Georgia came forward. On the tapes they identified 240 of the same people going around the state stuffing ballot drop boxes between 2 and 5 AM… where they were emptying backpacks out and they were dropping 50, 100 ballots into a dropbox. This is totally illegal… Here’s the bottom line, right? The one whistleblower that came forward because allegedly his mom said, hey what you’re doing is wrong and you need to be honest about it. Own up to it. He said that he was paid $10 per ballot… And he made $45,000 between November 3rd and the runoff. Two elections he made $45,000!… Now do the math.”



“There were 240 people of the same ones over and over in the same car involved in it. You start doing the math here. 45,000 time 240 people. You’ve got $11 million dollars distributed illegally. Then you take 4500 ballots by 240 people. You’re talking about a million ballots.”"

Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA (and FL) and they should be prosecuted.
However those were all still valid votes from real people.
It would be fair, but somewhat chaotic, if they made ballot harvesting legal, that way both parties can participate.

How in the hell do you KNOW that they were from real people? Answer, YOU DON’T
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(This post was last modified: 01-05-2022, 09:32 PM by mikesez.)

(01-05-2022, 09:13 PM)Ronster Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 08:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA (and FL) and they should be prosecuted.
However those were all still valid votes from real people.
It would be fair, but somewhat chaotic, if they made ballot harvesting legal, that way both parties can participate.

How in the hell do you KNOW that they were from real people? Answer, YOU DON’T

The voter signed across the seal and the elections office compared the signatures with the signature at the time of registration.

(01-05-2022, 08:52 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 08:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA (and FL) and they should be prosecuted.
However those were all still valid votes from real people.
It would be fair, but somewhat chaotic, if they made ballot harvesting legal, that way both parties can participate.

No. If you can’t go vote, mail your own damn ballot in yourself. No one else needs to gather up ballots for anyone!

I agree, but in California, you will have democratic party volunteers knocking on your door offering to return your ballot if you're a registered democrat.  Or you'll have Republican volunteers knocking on your door asking if you want them to return your ballot for you, if you're a registered Republican.  I wouldn't like that, but Californians don't seem to mind.  Been that way there for years.
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(01-05-2022, 09:13 PM)Ronster Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 08:25 PM)mikesez Wrote: Ballot harvesting is illegal in GA (and FL) and they should be prosecuted.
However those were all still valid votes from real people.
It would be fair, but somewhat chaotic, if they made ballot harvesting legal, that way both parties can participate.

How in the hell do you KNOW that they were from real people? Answer, YOU DON’T
This is what this is about. The vote harvesting is illegal and needs to be prosecuted, it could also lead to taking down the dem orgs who are doing it, but it isn't the meat of the story. They are being very outward in saying there was no vote fraud known right now, just people dropping off ballots.

Now if everyone got mailed a ballot, why do you need to vote harvest? If you have your ballot at home, you can just send someone to their house and have them put it in the mailbox. No need to collect ballots from people's house or have them bring it with them to you. They have someone talking but aren't mentioning where the ballots originally came from. Just that they pick them up, drop them off somewhere, pickup ballots from that place, and finally drop them off in boxes.

I think the bigger part to this is who and what is the defense. They can't really defend it so if dem lawyers show up, you tie them to it and can trace the money. If they don't provide lawyers, more will talk. Discovery could be terrible for dems as I bet they were communicating safely with these people. Once you start charging, you move past that to where did the ballots come from? Did they print ballots for all the fantom voters they add/keep on the roles?

Hopefully this finally opens the box on all the fraud. There is some machine fraud but the adjudication and the inflated roles are where most of the cheating is done.

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(01-05-2022, 09:30 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 09:13 PM)Ronster Wrote: How in the hell do you KNOW that they were from real people? Answer, YOU DON’T

The voter signed across the seal and the elections office compared the signatures with the signature at the time of registration.

(01-05-2022, 08:52 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: No. If you can’t go vote, mail your own damn ballot in yourself. No one else needs to gather up ballots for anyone!

I agree, but in California, you will have democratic party volunteers knocking on your door offering to return your ballot if you're a registered democrat.  Or you'll have Republican volunteers knocking on your door asking if you want them to return your ballot for you, if you're a registered Republican.  I wouldn't like that, but Californians don't seem to mind.  Been that way there for years.

That's because Californians are trusting idiots when it comes to this. Or, they dont really care. My cousin from San Diego is moderate conservative, and he hates this system because it always leaves open the possibility of fraud. Even if none occurs or can be proven. Wouldn't both sides approve of knowing that an election was transparent and votes were collected and counted fairly? If so, then you need secure voting. Mail-in / harvesting isnt it.
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(01-05-2022, 09:30 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(01-05-2022, 09:13 PM)Ronster Wrote: How in the hell do you KNOW that they were from real people? Answer, YOU DON’T

The voter signed across the seal and the elections office compared the signatures with the signature at the time of registration.

(01-05-2022, 08:52 PM)Bchbunnie4 Wrote: No. If you can’t go vote, mail your own damn ballot in yourself. No one else needs to gather up ballots for anyone!

I agree, but in California, you will have democratic party volunteers knocking on your door offering to return your ballot if you're a registered democrat.  Or you'll have Republican volunteers knocking on your door asking if you want them to return your ballot for you, if you're a registered Republican.  I wouldn't like that, but Californians don't seem to mind.  Been that way there for years.

uh huh, and they don't verify the signatures. Anyone could sign them. There is NO ACCOUNTABILITY.
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