The nfl does not rig games! Anyways, the chiefs might get some extra calls, but do you know what to do if that's the case? You dont give the refs a chance by not letting the game be in question. As a team, you get that big lead and dont let them back in the game.

https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/162493...pYG-Jow5IA

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Ultimately the game came down to a handful of plays. The biggest one being Hurts fumbling the football early and giving them the ability to tie the game up. I think that's the most glaring and obvious point of the game to look at.

Philadelphia for the most part was in control of that football game early. If you go up 21 - 7 there? It may have changed the rest of the approach for both teams in that game last night. Also, while I respect Bradberry's humbleness there and admission. It still felt like that play was within five yards and really, really ticky tacky.

Especially for that point in the game.

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I didn't like that call at the end of the SB but that call against the Bengals was extremely valid. Just because some players are too stupid to refrain from hitting QBs out of bounds shouldn't reflect badly on refs making the personal foul call.

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The nfl does not rig games! Anyways, the chiefs might get some extra calls, but do you know what to do if that's the case? You dont give the refs a chance by not letting the game be in question. As a team, you get that big lead and dont let them back in the game.

https://twitter.com/JJWatt/status/162493...pYG-Jow5IA

Clearly you don't understand sarcasm.

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There was also the no call on Gardner-Johnson initiating contact with his head on Pacheco like 3 plays before that would have set up KC for the game winner as well so it's whatever.

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I didn't like that call at the end of the SB but that call against the Bengals was extremely valid.  Just because some players are too stupid to refrain from hitting QBs out of bounds shouldn't reflect badly on refs making the personal foul call.

My brother tried to justify the hit on Mahomes saying the defender couldn't let up. Some people just think anything that goes against what they want is a bad call.

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Clearly you don't understand sarcasm.

What sarcasm? I never heard of such a word?

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There was also the no call on Gardner-Johnson initiating contact with his head on Pacheco like 3 plays before that would have set up KC for the game winner as well so it's whatever.

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I didn't like that call at the end of the SB but that call against the Bengals was extremely valid.  Just because some players are too stupid to refrain from hitting QBs out of bounds shouldn't reflect badly on refs making the personal foul call.

My brother tried to justify the hit on Mahomes saying the defender couldn't let up. Some people just think anything that goes against what they want is a bad call.

The most egregious non-call was when Mahomes got hit in the back of the head and then clubbed right in the face. That's the stuff that's supposed to be called and isn't a judgement call at all.

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I don't think the NFL rigs it's own games.. but

According to google the average NFL ref makes about 200k/year. I could absolutely see some betting bookie paying them off to make some bad calls.

It would be nearly impossible for the NFL to rig its own games. There's WAYYYY too many moving parts/people/players who would have to be involved and it would have gotten out by now.

However a ref, or a couple of them could be doing scummy stuff by taking payments for botched calls etc. I mean, didn't the NBA Tim Donaghy scandal only involve like 3 people?

Outright rigging no, I think the outcomes are still dependent on what the teams do but I'm convinced that the officiating is slanted to make the games as exciting/dramatic as possible. Sometimes those calls/non-calls do impact the outcome.

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Regardless of the calls and no-calls, nothing is worse than seeing Tom Brady get those roughing the QB calls that don't apply to other QBs. That probably pisses me off the most when it comes to the refs.

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Obviously the Eagles defense was garbage in the second half. KC had a lot of wide open WRs. And didnt get nearly as much pressure as they could have. Have to credit KC's offensive line throughout the playoffs. Very underrated unit. Saying all that, back to the topic, I thought the call at the end was bad. Refs need to have some awareness in big moments when a penalty will ultimately determine the outcome. If KC is forced to kick a FG, there would have been plenty of time for the Eagles to match that if not score a TD. But that penalty effectively ended the game. Was it a penalty? I guess. It isnt a play that gets flagged every time. And it's the kind of play if that if it goes uncalled in the 2nd quarter of the 3rd regular season game, no one would ever remember as it is so close to the line of not being a penalty. Plays like that go uncalled multiple times in every game. The DBs were allowed to play pretty physical throughout this Super Bowl so the refs had already set the precedent. Bradberry had already gotten away with what I thought was a more egregious hold earlier in the game and it wasn't called. On that final play, the WR was still able to get away from the coverage and had a step on his man before Mahomes chose to throw. It was just a bad overthrow (probably trying to make sure either his guy caught it or no one did). But the play was still there for the offense to make and they didnt make it. It was just too ticky-tack of a call to make in that moment to basically decide the game. Unfortunate the refs became a part of the storyline.

As far as Bradberry admitting to the hold, that was like one of those hostage videos where he is reading from a script. You could see his pause before he answered. He chose the financially prudent answer.

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Regardless of the calls and no-calls, nothing is worse than seeing Tom Brady get those roughing the QB calls that don't apply to other QBs.  That probably pisses me off the most when it comes to the refs.

It feels like the torch has officially passed from Brady to Mahomes in terms of respect from the refs.

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There was also the no call on Gardner-Johnson initiating contact with his head on Pacheco like 3 plays before that would have set up KC for the game winner as well so it's whatever.

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I didn't like that call at the end of the SB but that call against the Bengals was extremely valid.  Just because some players are too stupid to refrain from hitting QBs out of bounds shouldn't reflect badly on refs making the personal foul call.

My brother tried to justify the hit on Mahomes saying the defender couldn't let up. Some people just think anything that goes against what they want is a bad call.

I've heard the same regarding momentum, etc.  Regardless, in today's game, the player has to prepare accordingly and not let his momentum cause an impact when the QB runs out of bounds.  I don't like it because it's a fast moving game with 265 pound players running 4.5 but he needs to be in control and let up in time.  In that case, I do think the Bengals player could have missed Mahommes but in that split second chose to push him (then Mahommes exaggerated his fall to ensure he got the call).

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There was also the no call on Gardner-Johnson initiating contact with his head on Pacheco like 3 plays before that would have set up KC for the game winner as well so it's whatever.

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My brother tried to justify the hit on Mahomes saying the defender couldn't let up. Some people just think anything that goes against what they want is a bad call.

I've heard the same regarding momentum, etc.  Regardless, in today's game, the player has to prepare accordingly and not let his momentum cause an impact when the QB runs out of bounds.  I don't like it because it's a fast moving game with 265 pound players running 4.5 but he needs to be in control and let up in time.  In that case, I do think the Bengals player could have missed Mahommes but in that split second chose to push him (then Mahommes exaggerated his fall to ensure he got the call).

There a lot of plays that momentum and body mechanics could be argued for things to not be a penalty.

The issue is that it is very difficult to make those judgement in real time and also by refs on the field without the help of replays. Trying to take all that in to effect would extend the games too much.

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You notice any time KC needs a call, they always get, regardless if it's at the end of the AFC Championship Game or the bad call giving them the first down at the end of the Super Bowl. It's hard to believe one team constantly gets the calls, whenever they need one. They always have and they always will, folks!

The Eagle's defender held Juju in the first half worse than he did at the end of the game, and it WASN'T called.   So, that kinda kills your argument.

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Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

Personally - I thought the holding call was a pretty tacky tack and similar infractions often go uncalled - it was just that it happened at a seemingly crucial moment that magnified it.

At the end of the day - I don't think it decided the game by any stretch.

Also - moving this thread to proper forum.

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You notice any time KC needs a call, they always get, regardless if it's at the end of the AFC Championship Game or the bad call giving them the first down at the end of the Super Bowl. It's hard to believe one team constantly gets the calls, whenever they need one. They always have and they always will, folks!

The Eagle's defender held Juju in the first half worse than he did at the end of the game, and it WASN'T called.   So, that kinda kills your argument.

Actually, this kind of reinforces his argument.  Not called when it doesn’t matter, but called later when it is much less severe and hands the game away on a silver platter.

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The Eagle's defender held Juju in the first half worse than he did at the end of the game, and it WASN'T called.   So, that kinda kills your argument.

Actually, this kind of reinforces his argument.  Not called when it doesn’t matter, but called later when it is much less severe and hands the game away on a silver platter.

It was 3rd down.  Chiefs had to punt because the hold wasn't called.  Ju Ju was very demonstrative that it wasn't called.  I'm sure he harped to the ref.

And the Philly defender said he held JuJu.   

The Chiefs don't always get the calls, which was the initial posters point.

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Brandon Scherff is no longer that dude.   Next season I want him gone.

The Eagle's defender held Juju in the first half worse than he did at the end of the game, and it WASN'T called.   So, that kinda kills your argument.

Actually, this kind of reinforces his argument.  Not called when it doesn’t matter, but called later when it is much less severe and hands the game away on a silver platter.

It's just human emotion that says a bad thing at the end of a game matters more than the same bad thing in the middle of the game.  Logically speaking points are points regardless of when they are scored.

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My fellow southpaw Mark Brunell will probably always be my favorite Jaguar.

I don't think the NFL rigs it's own games.. but

According to google the average NFL ref makes about 200k/year. I could absolutely see some betting bookie paying them off to make some bad calls.

Money rules everything. Like when Morten Andersen missed in ‘96. Like when LeBron James got beat by Dallas his first year in Miami. When Strahan got his sack against Favre. 

I don’t think it’s rigged but it’s been proven that athletes and refs have played poorly or made calls to effect the game.

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